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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
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      @necrorat said in mesh bed compensation not applying correct corrections:

      inconstant very small gaps between the extruded lines in a couple of patches on the bed

      that is either a problem with under extrusion or backlash in your printer. not a problem with mesh bed leveling.

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      • necroratundefined
        necrorat @Veti
        last edited by necrorat

        @Veti 90% of the bed layer is perfect there are two patches where the gaps are observed so if it was under extrusion or backlash would it not be consistently like that all over the bed with mesh levelling working as it should?

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
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          post a picture

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @necrorat
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            @necrorat said in mesh bed compensation not applying correct corrections:

            height map.png

            The image seems to show a bowed gantry. What areas are not touching the bed?

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            • necroratundefined
              necrorat
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              20200131_164358.jpg 20200131_164331.jpg
              not the best pictures but best i can do at the moment.

              the main area is the region 3 threes what appears to be a island where the print head is too far from the bed

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
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                Where are those locations in relation to the heightmap?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  I see you're using the BLTouch. You can attempt to get a bit more accuracy and repeatability out of it by modifying your M558 a bit.

                  M558 P9 H5 F60 T6000 A10 R0.75 S0.003 B1

                  Slower probe speed, with repeated attempts if 2 consecutive probes don't match to within a tighter tolerance. Probing will take longer because of the slower dive height and it will do at least 2 probes per point. But you will be far less likely to get outliers.

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                  • necroratundefined
                    necrorat @Phaedrux
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                    @Phaedrux so 1 is the rear right of the height map and 3 is the front centre on the height map. sweet thanks for the tip ill change that out and give it a try probably wont be till tomorrow till ill get to try it now though.

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      can you measure the z trigger heigh at different positions?

                      it is possible that you have different trigger heights based on position.

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                      • necroratundefined
                        necrorat @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti so i measured the z trigger height and it didn't vary by more than 0.005mm at each of the 9 points i measured at, it did vary from point to point but thats kinda the point of bed levelling isn't it ?

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti @necrorat
                          last edited by

                          @necrorat said in mesh bed compensation not applying correct corrections:

                          so i measured the z trigger height and it didn't vary by more than 0.005mm at each of the 9 points i measured at, it did vary from point to point but thats kinda the point of bed levelling isn't it ?

                          no the z trigger height has to be constant across the entire bed otherwise you have the effects that you are seeing.
                          to clarify i am not refereing the the result of a G30 but the valude of of Z for G31 when calibrating it.

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                          • necroratundefined
                            necrorat @Veti
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                            @Veti just ran though a 3x3 grid to check and i am consistently getting 2.31 for the trigger height

                            01/02/2020, 15:16:27 M98 P"0:/macros/probe test"
                            Current reading 0, threshold 25, trigger height 2.31, offsets X-29.5 Y11.4

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @necrorat
                              last edited by Veti

                              @necrorat said in mesh bed compensation not applying correct corrections:

                              01/02/2020, 15:16:27 M98 P"0:/macros/probe test"

                              does that macro do this?
                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

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                              • necroratundefined
                                necrorat @Veti
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                                @Veti ive wrote it as this to probe 3 times per spot:
                                G1 Z10
                                G30 S-1
                                G1 Z10
                                G30 S-1
                                G1 Z10
                                G30 S-1

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                                • necroratundefined
                                  necrorat
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                                  so have just run it again and i am getting quite a large variance now in the region of 0.11mm is this a mechanical issue? the machine is set up on linear rails and i have ensured that they are as square and parallel as possible

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @necrorat
                                    last edited by

                                    @necrorat said in mesh bed compensation not applying correct corrections:

                                    G1 Z10
                                    G30 S-1
                                    G1 Z10
                                    G30 S-1
                                    G1 Z10
                                    G30 S-1

                                    that determines repeatability, but does not determine z probe trigger height as you do not determine z=0 before probing as described in the above linked document

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                                    • necroratundefined
                                      necrorat @Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @Veti so do i have to go though the full calibration procedure for each point that i probe on the bed?

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti @necrorat
                                        last edited by

                                        @necrorat
                                        do one at the point where the lines where ok and one where the lines where not ok

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                                        • necroratundefined
                                          necrorat @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti so just did a test over 5 point and theses are the results :

                                          2.064
                                          2.068
                                          2.066
                                          2.059
                                          2.046

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            thats a lot different than your original trigger height of 2.31

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