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    dc42 administrators @Danal
    last edited by 7 Feb 2020, 09:46

    @Danal said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

    AND, your homeall.g is completely wrong. It should be:

    G91 G1 Z5 F800 H2 ; Lift z so we don't crash
    M98 P"homey.g"
    M98 P"homex.g"
    M98 P"homez.g"

    And nothing else.

    That's one way to do homeall.g, but not the only one. The point of having homeall.g is that you can take some shortcuts when you know you are homing all the axes. For example, you can lift Z only once, and on Cartesian and CoreXY machines you can home X and Y simultaneously.

    When debugging homing, it's best to debug homing each axis separately, X and Y before Z. When they are working individually, move on to home all 3 with a single G28 command.

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      Danal @dc42
      last edited by 7 Feb 2020, 13:41

      @dc42 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

      @Danal said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

      AND, your homeall.g is completely wrong. It should be:

      G91 G1 Z5 F800 H2 ; Lift z so we don't crash
      M98 P"homey.g"
      M98 P"homex.g"
      M98 P"homez.g"

      And nothing else.

      That's one way to do homeall.g, but not the only one. The point of having homeall.g is that you can take some shortcuts when you know you are homing all the axes. For example, you can lift Z only once, and on Cartesian and CoreXY machines you can home X and Y simultaneously.

      When debugging homing, it's best to debug homing each axis separately, X and Y before Z. When they are working individually, move on to home all 3 with a single G28 command.

      Agreed. I probably should have said "a more clear way for debugging" instead of "completely wrong"... 🙂

      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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        94118
        last edited by 7 Feb 2020, 18:19

        Now i need help with the temp sensors:

        As you know my hotend is a mk10 with K Type Thermistor that screws into block Currently show NO Read
        I have tried everything i can to get this fixed and cannot get it to sense. (i.e Jumper wire between both terminals of the K Type Daughter board, wired in fuse to VSSA e1 and e0 Ground daughter board shows no fault via leds. been trying to get the firmware to talk to the daughter board and are having no luck current status shows NA.

        Second i have a 24v 180W Silicone heat pad for the bed from keenovo they use the NTC100K thermistor however i cannot get this read correctly (current status is -273)

        my paneldue shows no read or 0 for both bed and hotend

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          94118
          last edited by 7 Feb 2020, 23:00

          console.txt

          my hotend heater comes up with this code:

          GPIO/servo pin1 NO Pin

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            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by 7 Feb 2020, 23:41

            It looks like you updated to reprapfirmware 3 without updating your config.g. Substantial changes are required for RRF3.

            You'll need to either redo your config files using the online configurator tool, or revert to 2.05.

            I think it would be best to stick with 2.05 until you have everything working before making the jump to RRF3.

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              94118
              last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 02:12

              Reflashed entire firmware to 2.05 cannot home my axis, Hotend thermistor still does not read as well as my bed still states -273 their is NO Shorts or loose wires with either of them.

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                94118
                last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 02:15

                [0_1581127980987_config.zip](Uploading 100%) here is a copy of my current config files. i need to control these files like simplfy 3d with my Flashforge creator (i.e. X to home right, Y to Home Back, and Z to raise the bed)

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 02:33

                  zip files won't work. just copy and paste the contents.

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                    94118
                    last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 17:38

                    I did do a copy and paste:
                    z is grinding when in the home position which is Raised to 0. any news about fixing my temp sensors

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                      Phaedrux Moderator @94118
                      last edited by Phaedrux 2 Aug 2020, 18:06 8 Feb 2020, 18:06

                      @94118 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

                      I did do a copy and paste:

                      Copy and paste the contents of the files into a forum post.

                      You've uploaded them earlier. Have they changed since then?

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @94118
                        last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 18:08

                        @94118 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

                        any news about fixing my temp sensors

                        The issues presented seem like wiring issues. Are you using extension cables at all? Are the crimps good?

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                          Phaedrux Moderator @94118
                          last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 18:08

                          @94118 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

                          z is grinding when in the home position which is Raised to 0

                          I'm not sure what that means. Raised by 0.

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                            94118
                            last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 18:45

                            my z axis is at the top of the printer hitting my z endstop and loud grinding this happens every time i home the z and have to trigger an emergency stop and reset. Wiring is solid All Crimps and Ferrells i can send a current pict.(https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C2ZJ8UMBzF1jl2yiAGesEVCoj4MjkdAC)

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                              Phaedrux Moderator @94118
                              last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 18:49

                              @94118 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

                              my z axis is at the top of the printer hitting my z endstop and loud grinding this happens every time i home the z

                              ; homeall.g
                              ; called to home all axes
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Thu Feb 06 2020 14:52:27 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
                              G91 ; relative positioning
                              G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position

                              At the start of the homing files there is usually a Z move to lift the Z axis to get it out of the way for travel. perhaps this is what's running it into the endstop?

                              But if that's the case, then I think you have the direction of the Z motor incorrect, because that Z move should be moving the bed AWAY from the endstop, not into it.

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                                94118
                                last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 19:31

                                okay i just changed the direction of the drive from backward to forward in the

                                config.g

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                                  94118
                                  last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 19:39

                                  BTW does anyone know how to wire an RGBW Led Strip to a duet

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator @94118
                                    last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 21:08

                                    @94118 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

                                    okay i just changed the direction of the drive from backward to forward in the

                                    config.g

                                    And did that fix it?

                                    M126 S[fan_speed_pwm]
                                    M140 S[bed0_temperature] P0
                                    M134 P0 ; stabilize bed temperature
                                    M104 S[extruder0_temperature] H1
                                    M133 H1 ; stabilize extruder temperature
                                    G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs A0 ; zero extruder
                                    G1 Z0.4 ; position nozzle
                                    G1 E25 F300 ; purge nozzle
                                    G1 X-115 Y-65 Z0.15 F1200 ; slow wipe
                                    G1 X-110 Y-60 Z0.5 F1200 ; lift
                                    G92 A0 ; zero extruder

                                    Do you actually have all that as part of your config.g?

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                                      94118
                                      last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 21:21

                                      @94118 said in Help: Temp Sensors and Homing Issues:

                                      Yes it is part of the Priming and Purge code for the hotend when it was on my FFC

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                                        94118
                                        last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 21:22

                                        it was running Sailfish on a mightyboard and it worked

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator @94118
                                          last edited by 8 Feb 2020, 21:31

                                          Some of those gcodes aren't supported in reprapfirmware. (M134, M133, G130) And the extruder in RRF is E, not A and B.

                                          It would be best practice to not have heating and axis movement commands in config.g since it is executed at startup.

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