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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Are both boards running the same firmware version? Send M115 to check.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • Awesomerundefined
        Awesomer
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        Printer One:

        2/12/2020, 12:50:46 PM M115

        FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.0 ELECTRONICS: Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2020-01-03b3

        Printer Two:

        2/12/2020, 12:50:52 PM M115

        FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.0 ELECTRONICS: Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2020-01-03b3

        I also based the settings for the second printer off the ones I got working on the first one. So they have identical everything except the part cooling fan frequency.

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        • Danalundefined
          Danal
          last edited by

          Do you see a control (slider) for these fans in Duet Web Control? If so, does moving slider lead to any insights?

          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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          • Awesomerundefined
            Awesomer @Danal
            last edited by

            @Danal That's how I have been controlling the speed % and can tell at which speeds the fan turns on/off.

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            • Danalundefined
              Danal
              last edited by Danal

              Excellent.

              Here is an absolutely weird long shot: DWC does cache certain thing about the configuration, and can potentially store them on browser local storage (that is the PC or Mac), and/or it can store certain things in a file on the Duet itself.

              Again, a long shot... Try a completely different browser or PC. If you've been using Chrome, use Brave or Edge. Etc. See if there is any difference.

              Edit: Oh... and turn OFF the setting to store configuration on the Duet SD card.

              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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              • Awesomerundefined
                Awesomer
                last edited by

                Just tried on Edge and Firefox (I use Chrome, usually) and it didn't work. I also have a PanelDue attached and adjusting using that, instead of Duet Web Control, also doesn't make a difference.

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                • Danalundefined
                  Danal
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, it was a shot in the dark.

                  Well, you have a very intriguing mystery on your hands. I am truly stumped for things even to diagnose this! Maybe sleeping on it...

                  Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                  • zaptaundefined
                    zapta @Danal
                    last edited by zapta

                    Do you have an oscilloscope? Tried to look at the output PWM signals?

                    (even a cheapo DIY kit should do https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32588011154.html )

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Just to confirm, you've moved the same fan between both printers to eliminate the fan itself, right?

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • Awesomerundefined
                        Awesomer @zapta
                        last edited by

                        @zapta I have access to one. That seems like a lot of unnecessary work at the moment, though. Maybe if it's the difference between getting a replacement board and being stuck with this one (assuming this second board is faulty), then sure, I'll do a little diagnostics work like this.

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                        • Awesomerundefined
                          Awesomer @Phaedrux
                          last edited by Awesomer

                          @Phaedrux I have tried all three fans I have on all 3 ports -- fan0, fan1, & fan2. One is on the first board, as described above, and it has the same issues on the second board that the other two fans have. The other two fans are new and were purchased at different times -- about a month apart.

                          Edit: All the fans work fine on the first board.

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                          • gtj0undefined
                            gtj0
                            last edited by

                            How about swapping the 24v power supplies between boards (or boards between power supplies)?

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by dc42

                              Are the fan voltage select jumpers in the same places on both boards?

                              Are you getting 24V out of the fan ports when they are full PWM? CAUTION: be VERY CAREFUL when measuring it - users frequently short the fan pins together when trying to measure the output voltage, and that blows the mosfet.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • jens55undefined
                                jens55 @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 said in Frequency Discrepancy Between Two Duet2Ethernet Boards:

                                CAUTION: be VERY CAREFUL when measuring it - users frequently short the fan pins together when trying to measure the output voltage, and that blows the mosfet.

                                Oh so true <sigh>

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