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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @jay_s_uk
      last edited by

      @jay_s_uk Yes, I think this is one for DC. I have to confess that I haven't yet updated my printer from an earlier beta so although I run 6 extruders on 2 expansion boards, my situation isn't relevant to yours. Also, I still haven't hooked my RPi so I'm still running stand alone.

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      • blt3dpundefined
        blt3dp
        last edited by

        Is it possible this line might be affecting it?

        M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 E1.0:1.1 U0.2 P3

        From what I understand RRF starts counting extruders after the movement axis. Maybe defining U axis later in this command is throwing that off?

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk @blt3dp
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          @blt3dp

          Moving the U command before E made no difference

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • droftartsundefined
            droftarts administrators @jay_s_uk
            last edited by

            @jay_s_uk try the extruder on a separate M584 line of their own. Early RRF version couldn’t parse multiple multiple-axis definitions in one line.

            Ian

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk
              last edited by jay_s_uk

              @droftarts

              No change I'm afraid

              Its not even energising the motor

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk
                last edited by

                Any thoughts on this @dc42 ?

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk
                  last edited by

                  Small update.

                  I assigned drive 1.0 to axis 'V' rather than an extruder. At this point I powered down the machine to ensure the expansion board fully got the config.
                  I sent M564 H0 to ensure I could move an axis without homing.
                  X, Y and Z move fine.
                  Axis V does not. It also doesn't energise.

                  No further forward but I'd just thought I'd add that I've tried it

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                    jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    I've now also tried this in standalone mode to ensure that the raspberry pi is not causing issues.

                    I am running the following
                    "T0 P0" - this selects a tool without doing any moves to actually pick it up
                    "M302 P1" - allow cold extrusion
                    Extrude filament
                    M122 B1 shows that a move was scheduled and then when its "finished" it shows completed

                    Connected to duet by usb cable and using pronterface to control it.
                    I am doing this after the machine is booted. No other movement is taking place before hand. Also, all heaters are cold.

                    Still can't get any drivers on the expansion board to work.
                    Anyone got any ideas?

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk
                      last edited by

                      I've created the most basic config I can think of.
                      Setting it to use a driver on the main board works,
                      Setting it to use a driver on the expansion board doesn't

                      M584 X1.2
                      M569 P1.2 S1													; Drive 6 direction | Tool 2
                      M350 X16 I1             						; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X160    							; Set steps per mm
                      M566 X1400     							; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X25000 					; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X1300 						; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X1300  					; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30                                 						; Set idle timeout
                      

                      Think its time to warranty the board.

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk Have you tried reverting to the last known working firmware version?
                        @dc42 can you look at this thread?

                        Ian

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                        • Danalundefined
                          Danal @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by

                          @jay_s_uk said in Extruder motors no longer working:

                          have updated to 3.01 RC2 on both the main board and the expansion board.
                          Neither of my extruder motors are working any more.

                          Revert to 3.0 release and see what happens.

                          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                            jay_s_uk
                            last edited by

                            Update

                            Reverting the main board to 3.0 and the 3HC to 3.0 RC2 (Most recent previous release I could find) allows the use of the drivers.

                            I then applied 3.01-RC2 to the main board (with 3.0 RC2 still applied to the expansion board) and that also worked.

                            As soon as I apply 3.01-RC2 to the expansion board, all the drivers no longer work so it looks like there is a bug somewhere.

                            @dc42 would there be any compatibility issues running 3.01-RC2 on the main board and 3.0-RC2 on the expansion board until this gets sorted out?

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            • deckingmanundefined
                              deckingman @jay_s_uk
                              last edited by deckingman

                              @jay_s_uk Apolgies in advance if this seems like a daft question but we all make mistakes and forget things from time to time. So did you run M997 B1 after loading the expansion board firmware?

                              Ian
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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk
                                last edited by

                                @deckingman
                                Yes. Each time I ran M997 B1 and checked using M115 B1 that the firmware was loaded.

                                For me, 3.01-RC2 does not work on my expansion board

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks for your report. I know what is going wrong and I will have a new build of the expansion board firmware to fix it later today.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by

                                    Oh good, at least it's not just me

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      Fixed in latest build of the expansion board firmware at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3azy1njy3ayjsbp/AACquxr2m00eV568RZg5QG5wa?dl=0.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                                        jay_s_uk @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42
                                        That fixed it

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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