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    • SoDamnInsaneundefined
      SoDamnInsane @Danal
      last edited by SoDamnInsane

      @Danal said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

      @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

      Betrue3d

      Please post your deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g

      Does the probe click (extend retract) twice at power up?

      Also, does a single G30 (no parms) probe correctly?

      Thx @Danal for the quick answer.

      > Please post your deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g

      These are my probe files:

      deployprobe.g

      M280 P0 S10
      

      retractprobe.g

      M280 P0 S90
      

      > Does the probe click (extend retract) twice at power up?

      Yes it does.. But someone told me yesterday to play with the screw ontop. But i don't exactly now how high it was before i started turning.. ๐Ÿ˜ž

      > Also, does a single G30 (no parms) probe correctly?

      I haven't done this, to be honest. They told me to follow the manual, lol..

      I'm completely new with Duet. I have the board now for about 6 weeks, and the new printer has print just 1 test print, lol.

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      • Danalundefined
        Danal
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        @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

        M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"
        M280 P3 S10 I1
        M280 P3 S90 I1

        The highlighted parameters must match. Also, remove the I1. Like this:

        M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"
        M280 P0 S10
        M280 P0 S90

        Then try M280 P0 S10 from the console, and it should deploy the probe. M280 P0 S90 should retract it.

        Then try a single G30. Be ready to e-stop or power down.

        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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        • SoDamnInsaneundefined
          SoDamnInsane @Danal
          last edited by

          @Danal said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

          @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

          M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"
          M280 P3 S10 I1
          M280 P3 S90 I1

          The highlighted parameters must match. Also, remove the I1. Like this:

          M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"
          M280 P0 S10
          M280 P0 S90

          Then try M280 P0 S10 from the console, and it should deploy the probe. M280 P0 S90 should retract it.

          Then try a single G30. Be ready to e-stop or power down.

          Yes, my fault... I posted my 1st settings.. Sorry.

          Now i posted the new one! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          • SoDamnInsaneundefined
            SoDamnInsane
            last edited by

            My probe settings in my config.g

            ; Z-Probe
            
            M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F120 T2000                      ; enable BL-Touch, set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
            M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"					 ; Create a GPIO/Servo pin index using your chosen control pin
            G31 X30 Y-20 Z0 P25                                      ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X0:217 Y0:210 S20                                   ; define mesh grid
            
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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @SoDamnInsane
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              @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

              After I first gave the "G92 Z0" command and then followed by "G30 S-1"

              You should be sending G92 Z0 when the nozzle is touching the bed.
              Then you should be raising the printhead above the bed about 10mm.
              And then you should be sending G30 S-1.

              Is that what you're doing?

              If you send M401 and M402 does the pin deploy and retract? If not, then your deploy and retract macros are not correct. What exactly do you have in those macros now?

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              • SoDamnInsaneundefined
                SoDamnInsane @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                After I first gave the "G92 Z0" command and then followed by "G30 S-1"

                You should be sending G92 Z0 when the nozzle is touching the bed.
                Then you should be raising the printhead above the bed about 10mm.
                And then you should be sending G30 S-1.

                Is that what you're doing?

                If you send M401 and M402 does the pin deploy and retract? If not, then your deploy and retract macros are not correct. What exactly do you have in those macros now?

                Thx @Phaedrux

                I'm really, really a stupid and retarded person...
                I've only experience with a normal probe (PINDA, capacitive), so i THOUGHT that the nozzle must touch the bed every time the BL-Touch triggered the bed..

                Please, don't tell this to somebody else..... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @SoDamnInsane
                  last edited by Phaedrux

                  @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                  i THOUGHT that the nozzle must touch the bed every time the BL-Touch triggered the bed

                  Ahh, nope. It will stop at the height that the BLTouch pin triggers at. So the 1.86mm you mentioned would be your trigger height you would use in G31 Z.

                  Which is to say, that when the probe triggers, the nozzle is 1.86mm above the bed.

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                  • SoDamnInsaneundefined
                    SoDamnInsane @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                    @SoDamnInsane said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                    i THOUGHT that the nozzle must touch the bed every time the BL-Touch triggered the bed

                    Ahh, nope. It will stop at the height that the BLTouch pin triggers at. So the 1.86mm you mentioned would be your trigger height you would use in G31 Z.

                    Which is to say, that when the probe triggers, the nozzle is 1.86mm above the bed.

                    Yes i know... for about 1 hour, hahaha ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                    • Nuramoriundefined
                      Nuramori
                      last edited by

                      Can you post images of your installed BlTouch? Thereโ€™s a specific requirement of the dimension from the nozzle tip to the base of the bltouch. Variation from this can cause significant problems with dialing it in properly. I ran a bltouch on my duet2 using RRF3 for a few months before upgrading the board to a duet3 using RRF3. I also ran rrf2 on the duet2 with a bltouch. Iโ€™ve seen it all when it comes to the bltouch.

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                      • SoDamnInsaneundefined
                        SoDamnInsane @Nuramori
                        last edited by

                        @Nuramori said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                        Can you post images of your installed BlTouch? Thereโ€™s a specific requirement of the dimension from the nozzle tip to the base of the bltouch. Variation from this can cause significant problems with dialing it in properly. I ran a bltouch on my duet2 using RRF3 for a few months before upgrading the board to a duet3 using RRF3. I also ran rrf2 on the duet2 with a bltouch. Iโ€™ve seen it all when it comes to the bltouch.

                        Ahhh thx. That's nice... I just wanted to replace the nozzle and heatblock. But this how it's installed...

                        20200304_221148.jpg

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Well the nozzle will need to be below the pin when it's retracted, for obvious reasons. The BLTouch manual indicates the base of the probe body should be 8mm above the nozzle tip. Like so.

                          BLTouchZHeight.png

                          You don't have a nozzle installed in that photo, so it's hard to say if it's going to be high enough.

                          If your trigger height from G31 S-1 was actually 1.86mm, that's pretty close. When installed correctly the trigger height should be ~2mm.

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                          • SoDamnInsaneundefined
                            SoDamnInsane @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux Thx...

                            This is how it's now installed.
                            I'm PID tuning now, so can't measure. ๐Ÿ˜ž

                            20200305_001201.jpg

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s230

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                              • SoDamnInsaneundefined
                                SoDamnInsane @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @Phaedrux said in Problems with BL-Touch that i can't fix for some reason:

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s230

                                Thx very much, @Phaedrux !!

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                                • Kajundefined
                                  Kaj
                                  last edited by

                                  I also did the same, documented the process: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/14485/rrf3-bltouch-setup?_=1583394715553
                                  I'm now using a duex5 though so no longer use that setup.

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