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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk
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      I don't know how yours can be so different unless the original owner messed with the little metal flags on the top of the carriages.

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • Garyundefined
        Gary @jay_s_uk
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        @jay_s_uk
        The flags look/feel the same as my other stock machine. I'll need to get to the endstops as that's a huge difference.

        Just done another re-probe and similar results.
        M665 L440.000:440.000:440.000 R224.513 H456.388 B185.0 X-0.646 Y-0.364 Z0.000
        M666 X-6.930 Y3.322 Z3.607 A0.00 B0.00

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk
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          I would investigate your X endstop then as its 10mm different to your Y and Z enstops

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • Garyundefined
            Gary @jay_s_uk
            last edited by Gary

            @jay_s_uk
            Yes. Got my finger under all of them and one is maybe a 0.5/1mm higher, not 10. Disassembly required. Never seen an endstop could it be upside down?

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            • Garyundefined
              Gary @jay_s_uk
              last edited by Gary

              @jay_s_uk
              I got the error " Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset." Just wondered if the problem could be anything like the link below?

              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/10835/z-0-datum-was-not-determined-probing/3

              I can kind of see that having both a Z endstop switch and a Z probe could cause a problem, as the z tower is not the z height.
              Mine Firmware is: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 2.04 (2019-11-01b1)

              Have you got the same firmware version?

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk
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                @Gary

                I wouldn't worry about the message around the height map just yet.

                If you're going to stick with RRF2 for the moment, I would be upgrading to 2.05.1
                I'm on the latest RRF3.01 release and I use conditional gcode in my bed file.

                You need both a Z stop and a Z probe. The Z stop is set at the maximum end to signify its at the top of the tower. The firmware knows that the Z stop is for the Z tower and will treat it accordingly.

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • Garyundefined
                  Gary @jay_s_uk
                  last edited by Gary

                  @jay_s_uk
                  Will update the firmware. It was just a thought as X-6.790 and my probe offset of 5.52 gives 1.27mm which would correlate roughly to what I felt with my finger maybe.

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                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                    jay_s_uk @Gary
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                    @Gary

                    What do you mean your probe offset is 5.52? In your config, your Z probe offset is 17.656

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    • Garyundefined
                      Gary @jay_s_uk
                      last edited by Gary

                      @jay_s_uk
                      Sorry I meant initial hot end paper touch before using probe. z=0 at this height.

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                      • Garyundefined
                        Gary
                        last edited by Gary

                        Updated, checked all endstops/tabs and they all look okay. Similar distances and wiring the same. Just done another probe and config override as below.

                        M665 L440.000:440.000:440.000 R227.000 H456.747 B185.0 X0.000 Y0.000 Z0.000
                        M666 X0.000 Y0.000 Z0.000 A0.00 B0.00

                        That can't be right all zeros. I did notice that the first probe was not in the center of the bed - 10ish mm out.

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                        • Garyundefined
                          Gary
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                          Hi, Sorted at some point the X belt had twisted with the non-toothed side running on the stepper. I didn’t even notice when checking the stepper grub screws. I couldn’t see the belt twist as it’s slightly recessed on the machine, but I noticed when looking closely at the carriage and tabs. Really noticeable when you manually move the carriage up and down. It makes sense now as when I did a HomeDelta quite often, but not all the time, the interface would report not all axis homed and they weren’t. I just thought it was an annoying “feature” that would sometimes happen and I would have to click Home again. The board was turning the stepper the 490mm distance I have in my HomeDelta and not triggering the end stop giving the error. Also when doing probing from high up the results were inconsistent – belt slippage. Down low with slow probes it was okay. After a Home the X and Y values were not zero on the interface and when touching bed the hot end was not centred on the bed. Now to change the belts and somehow fix the bed which got smashed at the edge when the Perspex lid hit it!
                          M665 L440.000:440.000:440.000 R226.630 H455.788 B185.0 X0.093 Y0.750 Z0.000
                          M666 X-0.012 Y-0.045 Z0.057 A0.00 B0.00

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @Gary
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                            @Gary said in Delta z height AC Predator:

                            @jay_s_uk
                            Yeah I did that before. I deleted config override and re-probed, but I've noticed that re-probing overwrites the M665 and M666 values in the override file. Worth another try though. When you said your endstop adjustments were smaller than mine by how much?

                            It will only do that if you have M500 in your bed.g file, or you send M500 manually. I do not advise using M500 in bed.g.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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