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    • felt342undefined
      felt342
      last edited by

      And there is lighting, and top covered. Still waiting for a heated bed to come... 😐

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      • mrehorstdmdundefined
        mrehorstdmd
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        Do those print cooling fans actually move any air? Axial fans don't usually work against the back pressure that any sort of flow restrictor produces.

        https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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        • felt342undefined
          felt342
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          They do seems enough, but I must say they always on 75% to make me desirable result, meaning very loudly also :)).
          Will you suggest to change on something else? I fully am open to comments and experience!

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          • mrehorstdmdundefined
            mrehorstdmd
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            Radial blowers move more air against the pressure produced by flow restrictors. This type of thing usually works better: https://www.amazon.com/FYSETC-Cooling-50x50x15mm-Radiator-Accessories/dp/B07NTKG9K4/ref=sr_1_15?crid=O279YCVTBA45&dchild=1&keywords=radial+fan+24v+for+3d+printer&qid=1585683940&sprefix=radial+fan%2Caps%2C168&sr=8-15

            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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            • felt342undefined
              felt342 @mrehorstdmd
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              @mrehorstdmd

              Thanks! Ordered! Need to figured out the connection method, as I want to place watercooling block later on the extruder motors... It doest not matter the position of how I can place radial fans?

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              • mrehorstdmdundefined
                mrehorstdmd @felt342
                last edited by

                @felt342 I don't think the orientation of the blower matters, but probably best to check a data sheet if there is one.

                https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                • felt342undefined
                  felt342 @mrehorstdmd
                  last edited by

                  @mrehorstdmd
                  I see! I will design something and will post here to have a look.

                  Industrial 3D printing service in the Netherlands - gagatstudio.com

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                  • Turboundefined
                    Turbo @felt342
                    last edited by Turbo

                    @felt342 The cyclops hotend by E3D may be a good option for IDEX since you already have a chimera. you can also water-cool that.

                    Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                    Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                    • Turboundefined
                      Turbo @felt342
                      last edited by Turbo

                      @felt342 I'm looking forward to the finished build! Ive also got a corexy with a chimera hotend, although I'm not going as balls to the wall as you lol. Also i like your direct drive setup. is that your design or was that available online?

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                      Old picture. Linear rails added and different carriage design, not my design

                      Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                      Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @Turbo
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                        @Turbo Is that a dbot with a belted z axis? Link?

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        • Turboundefined
                          Turbo @Phaedrux
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                          @Phaedrux It was a custom design my friend made. I got this printer from him. I could see about putting them somewhere if hes cool with it, as he also gave me the files, but id have to make instructions or something.

                          Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                          Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                          • mrehorstdmdundefined
                            mrehorstdmd @Turbo
                            last edited by

                            @Turbo What's the gear ratio of the planetary box on the Z axis? Does it keep the bed from moving when power is cut? Any backlash?

                            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                            • Turboundefined
                              Turbo @mrehorstdmd
                              last edited by Turbo

                              @mrehorstdmd Not sure of the gear ratio on the box. I'll ask. When power is cut it doesn't fall, but i can move it down by hand. As for backlash, none as far as I can tell, still tuning though.
                              Edit: Z Motor (5.18:1)
                              Most Recent Benchy: .4 nozzle, .2layer height, 60mm/s.
                              Where I'm at currently
                              MVIMG_20200331_214524.jpg

                              (Where I wanna be: My custom i3 at .2mm LH, 80mm/s)
                              MVIMG_20200331_214923.jpg

                              Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                              Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @Turbo
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                                @Turbo said in WIP CoreXY with heated chamber:

                                @Phaedrux It was a custom design my friend made. I got this printer from him. I could see about putting them somewhere if hes cool with it, as he also gave me the files, but id have to make instructions or something.

                                If you can get some files or anything really that would be cool. I'm more interested to see how it was done than to implement it myself exactly as is. My Dbot is already pretty far off stock. The Z axis has always been a sore point and going to a belted design has always been in the back of my mind.

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                • felt342undefined
                                  felt342 @Turbo
                                  last edited by

                                  @Turbo

                                  Thank you! Nice machine you have too! Therefore you mentioned what you replaced wheels to linear rails. I was considering doing the same, but after I understand how wheels should be aligned and tightened I got almost perfect prints from it (to my needs), I don't think I need to change to rails? Maybe you can shine some light and tell the difference? 🙂
                                  The direct drive extruder - is from Bondtech BMG x2. They have neat setup for chimera. Also, I like how you placed blowers, I might do the same. 🙂

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                                  • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                    mrehorstdmd
                                    last edited by

                                    With that odd 5+2/11 ratio the minor flaws may be due to not using layer thickness that is a multiple of a full step in the motor. What value do you use for steps/mm in Z? If you tweak the layer thickness a bit it might get better. Do you use lift on retract? You might try turning that off, too.

                                    That odd ratio is why I have been suspicious of using planetary gearboxes for Z axis. All the ones I have seen have odd ratios. Someone built a corexy printer at the makerspace using one of these and it produces prints that are as good as any I have ever seen. I don't know what ratio he used, but the gear boxes are whole number ratios that make it easy to set layer thickness to multiples of a full step.

                                    https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @felt342
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                                      @felt342 said in WIP CoreXY with heated chamber:

                                      I don't think I need to change to rails?

                                      Nothing wrong with wheels. The only issues i've found are that the V slots and wheels must be cleaned occasionally, and the bearings of the mini V wheels can fail sometimes, especially if they are cheap chinese bearings and if they are over tensioned.

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • felt342undefined
                                        felt342 @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux

                                        Yes, I found out it always accumulate some dust/debris on wheels. Hopefully enclosed box can decrease the amount of dust inside. I do have wheels from openbuilds original. Do you have experience with the polycarbonate wheels from them?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          The polycarbonate wheels are harder and so might be more noisy or have more vibration. The Delrin wheels are still very durable and will settle in a bit over time. The only reason I've seen for using polycarbonate wheels would be in industrial applications where chemical and heat resistance would be required or when there would be very heavy loads. The heated enclosure in your case might qualify.

                                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                          • felt342undefined
                                            felt342
                                            last edited by

                                            Aha thank you! Will se in a future how it will work with heated enclosure.

                                            Industrial 3D printing service in the Netherlands - gagatstudio.com

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