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    • hiro_onoundefined
      hiro_ono
      last edited by

      I've taken the board off the printer (nothing connected anymore) and taken the U2 regulator off, there is a short over the outputs where it was connected.

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      • A Former User?
        A Former User
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        Suppose you can disconnect the etherned module, but beyond that a current limited supply and seeing what gets hot its not easy to identify which other parts have failed.

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        • hiro_onoundefined
          hiro_ono
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          I removed the ethernet module, and the short seems to be gone! So i guess something in the ethernet module has popped, no idea what though

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User
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            good news is you can buy just the ethernet module.

            but if you're certain the Duet wiring was not to blame I'd be concerned you have a ground fault somewhere in your mains wiring. is your electrical installation fitted with RCD/GFCI's?

            Electric water heater or stove tops are the prime suspects for ground faults after outdoor outlets and outdoor lighting.

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            • hiro_onoundefined
              hiro_ono
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              I'll do that 🙂 Apparently the plug it was plugged into has been a bit dodgy for years, so now I know where the problem is! Do you know which microusb port I should get? Looks like there's a lot of similar but slightly different kinds

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              • logrisoundefined
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                • logrisoundefined
                  logriso @logriso
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                  @logriso said in Magic smoke and stopped working:

                  Hi at all, I'm a newbie and I follow this chat since the begin.
                  @hiro_ono, I'm very sorry about your problem... And I hope cause is only the eth module... @bearer, I don't know what does mean RCD GFC

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                  • logrisoundefined
                    logriso
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                    @bearer coukd you please explain to me? I will prepare the wiring for my 3d printer and I want to be sure to connect everything in the right way, before apply power supply. Thanks a lot

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                    • hiro_onoundefined
                      hiro_ono
                      last edited by

                      RCD/GFC are circuit breakers, if something plugged into them draws too much current they open and break the circuit, you can close them again and the circuit should start working. Sort of like a fuse but re usable.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlM6PE2kKVY&t=9s

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                      • logrisoundefined
                        logriso
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                        @hiro_ono thank you... But is not enough insert a fuse(s) triggered to the max current of the board?

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                        • logrisoundefined
                          logriso @hiro_ono
                          last edited by

                          Sort of like a fuse but re usable.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlM6PE2kKVY&t=9s

                          OK I understand....

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                          • dc42undefined
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                            Have you checked that the VIN terminal block screws are tight, in particular the ground one; and that the wire is tightly gripped by the ferrule?

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                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User @hiro_ono
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                              @hiro_ono said in Magic smoke and stopped working:

                              RCD/GFC are circuit breakers, if something plugged into them draws too much current they open and break the circuit,

                              sort of; but RCD/GFCI are mostly concerned with leakage currents, meaning if the current that goes out on the live wire doesn't match what returns on neutral it will trip at a relatively low current tens of milliamperes; the main purpose is to protect humans against hazardous potentials if something shorts to a metal surface as well as reducing the risk of electrical fires.

                              (although at least in europe, they are normally combined with a traditional circuit breaker, so you could have 10A circuit breaker with a integral 40mA leake current protection for instance.)

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User @hiro_ono
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                                @hiro_ono said in Magic smoke and stopped working:

                                Do you know which microusb port I should get?

                                amp 10103594-0001LF or equivalent.

                                (but test it before buying a new one, I could only tell the board was discoloured to indicate thats where the current went - and you could also have to repair the ground pad, hard to say before removing the old)

                                ((edit: actually do you need the usb port? for all but firmware recovery i think you could use a usb-ttl adapter and connect to the panel due port instead. i'm not sure i'd bother to repair it if it was broken))

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                                • tekstyleundefined
                                  tekstyle @hiro_ono
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                                  @hiro_ono said in Magic smoke and stopped working:

                                  I connected my printer (duet ethernet, 12V) for the first time in a while, and couldn't find it on my browser, i plugged in a USB cable (stupidly with the printer still powered on) and there was some magic smoke. the ethernet light isn't on, and when i connect via usb i can't see it. Any help fixing it would be great

                                  Good to know that plugging even the USB cable to a PC will cause magic smoke while powered on. I didn't know it was possible.

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                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User @tekstyle
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                                    @tekstyle said in Magic smoke and stopped working:

                                    Good to know that plugging even the USB cable to a PC will cause magic smoke while powered on. I didn't know it was possible.

                                    Hopefully this is just a lost-in-translation thing, because it is not a given that plugging in a USB cable will cause magic smoke. It can cause magic smoken given other faulty wiring in either the printer or even external to the printer.

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