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    • Baenwortundefined
      Baenwort
      last edited by

      So here are the rest of the config that I think might be helpful. If you want pictures of the hardware let me know and I can take some video or pictures.

      bed.g

      M203 Z15000
      G28
      
      M109 S0
      M140 S0
      M106 P0 S0
      M106 P2 S0 H-1
      
      G30 P0 X0 Y134.9 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P1 X67.45 Y116.83 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P2 X116.83 Y67.45 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P3 X134.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P4 X116.83 Y-67.45 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P5 X67.45 Y-116.83 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P6 X0 Y-134.9 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P7 X-67.45 Y-116.83 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P8 X-116.83 Y-67.45 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P9 X-134.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P10 X-116.83 Y67.45 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P11 X-67.45 Y116.83 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P12 X0 Y67.4 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P13 X58.37 Y33.7 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P14 X58.37 Y-33.7 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P15 X0 Y-67.4 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P16 X-58.37 Y-33.7 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P17 X-58.37 Y33.7 H0 Z-99999
      G30 P18 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
      
      M106 P2 T50 S0.5 H1
      
      G28 
      

      homedelta.g

      M203 Z15000
      G91                         ; use relative positioning
      G1 S1 X750 Y750 Z750 F5000  ; move all carriages up, stopping at the endstops
      G1 S2 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F500     ; move all towers down 5mm
      G1 S1 X8 Y8 Z8 F500        ; move towers slowly up 8mm, stopping at the endstops
      G1 S2 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F500     ; move carriages down 5mm
      G90                         ; back to absolute positioning
      

      config-override.g

      ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2020-04-11 23:36
      ; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
      ; Delta parameters
      M665 L377.000:377.000:377.000 R150.140 H341.958 B135.0 X-0.281 Y-0.148 Z0.000
      M666 X-0.605 Y-0.037 Z0.642 A0.00 B0.00
      ; Heater model parameters
      M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
      G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
      

      heightmap.csv

      ![d7e34c2d-495b-4345-b66f-91f36c7b33af-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1586704506596-d7e34c2d-495b-4345-b66f-91f36c7b33af-image.png) code_text
      ```RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2020-04-11 23:36	 min error -0.264	 max error 0.366	 mean -0.024	 deviation 0.118								
      xmin	xmax	ymin	ymax	radius	xspacing	yspacing	xnum	ynum				
      -120	120.1	-120	120.1	140	20	20	13	13				
      0	0	0	0.156	0.158	0.14	0.135	0.084	0.049	0.054	0	0	0
      0	0	-0.041	-0.025	0.025	-0.002	-0.02	-0.057	-0.101	-0.16	-0.145	0	0
      0	-0.169	-0.188	-0.115	-0.061	-0.049	-0.049	-0.064	-0.088	-0.122	-0.163	-0.202	0
      -0.242	-0.208	-0.177	-0.089	-0.055	-0.039	-0.052	-0.067	-0.09	-0.179	-0.225	-0.264	-0.195
      -0.256	-0.242	-0.176	-0.103	-0.04	-0.016	0.023	-0.014	-0.039	-0.067	-0.123	-0.147	-0.105
      -0.166	-0.134	-0.079	-0.038	0.014	0.098	0.102	0.096	0.037	-0.037	-0.112	-0.16	-0.088
      -0.096	-0.128	-0.088	-0.024	0.033	0.114	0.111	0.114	0.109	0.041	0.01	0.024	0.036
      0.038	-0.001	0	0.01	0.052	0.09	0.113	0.128	0.037	0.034	0.002	0.016	0.138
      0.15	0.027	-0.014	-0.025	-0.003	0.011	0.012	0.064	0.06	0.035	0.011	0.091	0.26
      0.298	0.169	0.063	0.011	0.014	-0.003	-0.028	-0.028	-0.048	-0.049	0.011	0.071	0.366
      0	0.249	0.102	0.012	-0.052	-0.089	-0.092	-0.127	-0.101	-0.036	0.038	0.227	0
      0	0	0.189	0.036	-0.041	-0.127	-0.164	-0.191	-0.179	-0.1	0.049	0	0
      0	0	0	0.091	-0.084	-0.185	-0.255	-0.223	-0.16	-0.048	0	0	0
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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Have you gone through this in close detail? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

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        • droftartsundefined
          droftarts administrators @Baenwort
          last edited by droftarts

          @Baenwort This is a good page for visualising what the effect of incorrectly set rod lengths and delta radius does: http://boim.com/DeltaUtil/CalDoc/Calibration.html

          I'd say you have a mix of both causing your strange mesh pattern. I notice that the radius has jumped from R144 (in your config.g) to R150.140. I guess you've done a calibration but fixed the arm length? Are you sure that's the correct arm length? Because the mesh map points to either the arms being too short and the radius to large (which I think is more likely), or the other way around. At least the bed mesh map is pretty symmetrical, so I think adjusting these will get you a pretty flat bed.

          Also, see guide @Phaedrux posted.

          Edit: also found this, so I could look at your bed mesh in 3D using the csv data:
          http://lokspace.eu/3d-printer-auto-bed-leveling-mesh-visualizer/

          Ian

          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          • Baenwortundefined
            Baenwort @droftarts
            last edited by

            @droftarts The R value is 144 per the manufacturer suggestion but the actual build plate is 310mm diameter. I can try my best to measure the Delta Radius as I do have a device of sufficient size for that.

            The arm length is beyond my ability to measure accurately as I don't have a tool that can do so. I rely on SeeMeCNC , a Duet3D partner manufacturer, to have made the arms and provided a accurate value. Which direction would you suggest adjusting and in what amount? Increase the arm length by 1mm?

            That page does have some interesting information.

            @Phaedrux I will give it a try. The idea of the first probe macro, provided by SeeMeCNC, is to do all those things. When upgrading to Duet from RAMPS the only changes are the Duet and the new hot end (which probes and connects in the same fashion between the two version) there are no physical changes and the printer has been successfully printing before this change. I changed mostly as I was having memory space issues with the RAMPS board and complex duel extrusion gcodes.

            I'll report back after measuring the Delta Radius. Please make any other suggestions you'd like as I've spent the weekend and have exhausted my ideas.

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            • Baenwortundefined
              Baenwort
              last edited by

              So I did @Phaedrux 's instructions and physically everything seems to be as good as it was before the upgrade to Duet and SE300.

              @droftarts I edited my rod lengths to 340.5 (which is what SeeMeCNC lists in https://www.seemecnc.com/products/carbon-fiber-arms-340-5mm-set-of-six and their own Wiki page. It is only in the github repo for their SD card load that it uses 377 for the arm length.

              Since doing this I seem to have better results.

              config-overide.g

              ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2020-04-12 22:39
              ; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
              ; Delta parameters
              M665 L340.500:340.500:340.500 R141.959 H341.785 B135.0 X-0.283 Y-0.199 Z0.000
              M666 X-0.530 Y-0.090 Z0.619 A0.00 B0.00
              ; Heater model parameters
              M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
              G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
              

              and the heightmap:

              RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2020-04-12 22:44, min error -0.127, max error 0.115, mean -0.025, deviation 0.048
              xmin,xmax,ymin,ymax,radius,xspacing,yspacing,xnum,ynum
              -120.00,120.10,-120.00,120.10,140.00,20.00,20.00,13,13
                    0,      0,      0,  0.023, -0.013, -0.051, -0.083, -0.090, -0.063, -0.045,      0,      0,      0
                    0,      0,  0.115,  0.042,  0.014, -0.023, -0.079, -0.120, -0.126, -0.104, -0.027,      0,      0
                    0,  0.090,  0.019, -0.014, -0.013, -0.026, -0.055, -0.064, -0.065, -0.054, -0.028,  0.010,      0
                0.011,  0.030,  0.030,  0.008, -0.004, -0.007, -0.055, -0.083, -0.085, -0.085, -0.083, -0.077,  0.020
               -0.078, -0.022, -0.024, -0.018, -0.021,  0.011, -0.012, -0.029, -0.022, -0.008,  0.013, -0.000,  0.049
               -0.094,  0.001,  0.015,  0.012,  0.011,  0.026,  0.012,  0.002, -0.040, -0.052, -0.070, -0.033, -0.005
               -0.096, -0.027, -0.019, -0.021, -0.009,  0.009,  0.016,  0.003,  0.009,  0.015,  0.008, -0.008,  0.022
               -0.049,  0.003, -0.012,  0.005, -0.009,  0.016,  0.033,  0.029, -0.020, -0.075, -0.076, -0.082, -0.041
               -0.086, -0.030, -0.008, -0.018, -0.014, -0.013,  0.012,  0.037, -0.009, -0.059, -0.081, -0.061,  0.001
               -0.021, -0.030,  0.022,  0.004,  0.039,  0.015,  0.001, -0.022, -0.056, -0.099, -0.127, -0.123, -0.072
                    0, -0.014, -0.011,  0.018,  0.022,  0.004, -0.022, -0.073, -0.078, -0.095, -0.114, -0.080,      0
                    0,      0,  0.057,  0.065,  0.046,  0.000, -0.029, -0.055, -0.085, -0.118, -0.098,      0,      0
                    0,      0,      0,  0.074,  0.054,  0.023, -0.054, -0.052, -0.103, -0.102,      0,      0,      0
              

              c6124238-45c1-4907-b525-a3c59aec29bd-image.png

              it still has the kinda strange curl in the three corners and a dip between them and the center slightly raised but this is within a range that I am going to try printing.

              I will bring the 300mm micrometer home from work tomorrow and measure the Delta Radius as you requested. If you have other suggestions please make them as I'd like to get this all nailed down and the printer processing all the requests I have from friends and co-workers to make some of the NIH items.

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @Baenwort
                last edited by

                @Baenwort Looks much better! There's still the shape there was before, but much subtler, so maybe it's just tweaking the arm length and delta radius now. I think there's also some effector tilt going on, or backlash in one of the axes, as you're getting alternate up/down lines in the X axis direction:
                8f06ae65-9c31-4616-8720-7cb8eab88281-image.png

                Have you tried running a 7-factor bed calibration? This will tune the arm lengths too.

                It's very difficult to measure delta radius, and you need to measure the effector radius too:

                alt text

                As you're so close, I'd just let the calibration sort it out.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • Baenwortundefined
                  Baenwort @droftarts
                  last edited by

                  @droftarts I see that given what I have available to measure with it will be difficult as I'm not sure how precisely I would be able to measure from center to center of a open circle. The Effector wouldn't be as hard as I'd have the nozzle to align with and the extruded towers have a center channel I could also use.

                  Do you suggest tweaking by .5mm or even .1 in a given direction? I don't think the delta radius is the problem but rather the arm length. I've put in a issue on SeeMeCNC's github about this: https://github.com/seemecnc/RostockMaxV3.2/issues/2

                  I wasn't sure if I could do a S7 calibration as the wiki advice is that you need to be significantly outside the triangle of the towers and I don't think my surface is big enough?

                  IMG_20200412_191927.jpg
                  20200412_193131.jpg

                  The idea of the carbon arms and milled ball joints was to reduce backlash. I wish I had some more precision to measure tilt as the bubble levels and analog angle gauge I have don't show any issue. Would you suggest anything other then using a bubble level on the effector?

                  20200412_192000.jpg
                  20200412_192206.jpg

                  Is there a video host that would be best for me to post a G29 run or other movement video while the bubble ridges the effector?

                  Baenwort created this issue in seemecnc/RostockMaxV3.2

                  open Wiki and Firmware conflict on Carbon Arm Length #2

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Baenwort
                    last edited by

                    @Baenwort said in Weird Bed Mesh - Delta - Rostock 3.2:

                    Is there a video host that would be best for me to post a G29 run

                    Dropbox, vimeo, youtube, google drive

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • droftartsundefined
                      droftarts administrators @Baenwort
                      last edited by

                      @Baenwort In the end, the effector tilt is tiny, I'd say about 0.025mm. It may just be belt tension (equally tension all three belts), or a slight movement/sticking in an X-carriage, or stiction (static friction, ie that some force is needed to move them) in the ball joints. Did you lubricate the ball joints as recommended?

                      The bigger issue (and again, it's still pretty small, as your max deviation is +/- 0.125mm) is the delta radius and rod length, but I think these are close, and you're not going to get closer by physically measuring it.

                      I'd say yes, your bed is big enough to use S7 (or S8 or S9, though the bed looks pretty flat). I'd see what they report; you don't have to implement them. Just run them (adjust bed.g so the nozzle probes as close to the edge of the bed as possible, without hitting the towers) and run a bed mesh afterwards, to see if there's an improvement.

                      Ian

                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                      • Baenwortundefined
                        Baenwort @droftarts
                        last edited by Baenwort

                        @droftarts Thanks, I will try driving the nozzle over to the edge of the bed and measuring the coordinates to put into a extra points. I currently have the following bed.g

                        M203 Z15000
                        G28
                        
                        M109 S0
                        M140 S0
                        M106 P0 S0
                        M106 P2 S0 H-1
                        
                        G30 P0 X0 Y134.9 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P1 X67.45 Y116.83 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P2 X116.83 Y67.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P3 X134.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P4 X116.83 Y-67.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P5 X67.45 Y-116.83 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P6 X0 Y-134.9 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P7 X-67.45 Y-116.83 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P8 X-116.83 Y-67.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P9 X-134.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P10 X-116.83 Y67.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P11 X-67.45 Y116.83 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P12 X0 Y67.4 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P13 X58.37 Y33.7 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P14 X58.37 Y-33.7 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P15 X0 Y-67.4 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P16 X-58.37 Y-33.7 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P17 X-58.37 Y33.7 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P18 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
                        
                        M106 P2 T50 S0.5 H1
                        
                        G28 
                        

                        How many points would you recommend? I am currently going to add 6 more points to the 18 I currently have. Three, each at the base of each tower, as close as I can maneuver the effector; and three, each directly opposite a tower, as far as I can position the nozzle out and still have solid bed under it.

                        Would that be sufficient for a S7?

                        I have lubed and cleaned and lubed again the ball joints on both the trucks and the effector ends with the white lube that SeeMeCNC gave with the ball joints. I've noticed that the lube likes to pick up dust and I never found a good recommendation on how much so I think I'm over lubricating out of caution.

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                        • Baenwortundefined
                          Baenwort
                          last edited by Baenwort

                          So I made up some extra bed.g points, that after I modded my config.g to have a B150 in my definition area to let me get closer to the edge, gave me the following bed.g that did not crash anything and reached where I had hoped.

                          M203 Z15000
                          G28
                          
                          M109 S0
                          M140 S0
                          M106 P0 S0
                          M106 P2 S0 H-1
                          
                          G30 P0 X0 Y134.9 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P1 X67.45 Y116.83 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P2 X116.83 Y67.45 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P3 X134.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P4 X116.83 Y-67.45 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P5 X67.45 Y-116.83 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P6 X0 Y-134.9 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P7 X-67.45 Y-116.83 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P8 X-116.83 Y-67.45 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P9 X-134.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P10 X-116.83 Y67.45 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P11 X-67.45 Y116.83 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P12 X0 Y67.4 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P13 X58.37 Y33.7 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P14 X58.37 Y-33.7 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P15 X0 Y-67.4 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P16 X-58.37 Y-33.7 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P17 X-58.37 Y33.7 H0 Z-99999
                          G30 P18 X-120 Y-70 H0 Z-99999 ;Xtower Base
                          G30 P19 X120 Y-70 H0 Z-99999 ;Ytower Base
                          G30 P20 X0 Y145 H0 Z-99999 ;Ztower Base
                          G30 P21 X132 Y70 H0 Z-99999 ;Xtower Cross
                          G30 P22 X-130 Y75 H0 Z-99999 ;Ytower Cross
                          G30 P23 X0 Y-150 H0 Z-99999 ;Ztower Cross
                          G30 P24 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S9
                          
                          M106 P2 T50 S0.5 H1
                          
                          G28 
                          

                          This resulted in the following new config-overridge.g after three G32 runs followed by a M500.
                          Screenshot_20200420-000955_Firefox_1.jpg

                          ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2020-04-19 23:33
                          ; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
                          ; Delta parameters
                          M665 L342.562:342.562:342.562 R142.418 H342.097 B150.0 X-0.284 Y-0.224 Z0.000
                          M666 X-0.634 Y-0.553 Z1.187 A0.01 B0.25
                          ; Heater model parameters
                          M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                          G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                          
                          

                          I then ran a G29 and got this heightmap.csv

                          RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2020-04-19 23:42, min error -0.179, max error 0.085, mean -0.021, deviation 0.052
                          xmin,xmax,ymin,ymax,radius,xspacing,yspacing,xnum,ynum
                          -120.00,120.10,-120.00,120.10,135.00,15.00,15.00,17,17
                                0,      0,      0,      0,  0.059,  0.030,  0.012, -0.058, -0.032, -0.072, -0.085, -0.136, -0.076,      0,      0,      0,      0
                                0,      0,      0,  0.085,  0.038,  0.061,  0.042, -0.032, -0.042, -0.085, -0.078, -0.083, -0.134, -0.082,      0,      0,      0
                                0,      0,  0.043,  0.015,  0.021,  0.020, -0.001, -0.013, -0.033, -0.087, -0.053, -0.063, -0.063, -0.046, -0.089,      0,      0
                                0,  0.068,  0.036,  0.052,  0.047,  0.039,  0.024,  0.003, -0.042, -0.059, -0.074, -0.107, -0.098, -0.131, -0.109, -0.071,      0
                            0.014, -0.034, -0.022, -0.030, -0.017,  0.011, -0.058,  0.006, -0.040, -0.044, -0.014, -0.011, -0.027, -0.026, -0.030, -0.036, -0.064
                           -0.005, -0.014,  0.020,  0.027,  0.015,  0.017, -0.014,  0.015, -0.044, -0.055, -0.051, -0.047, -0.047, -0.058, -0.073, -0.069, -0.041
                           -0.060, -0.075, -0.029, -0.014, -0.032, -0.021,  0.011,  0.037, -0.018,  0.004, -0.010, -0.011,  0.014,  0.021,  0.026, -0.006,  0.007
                           -0.021,  0.005,  0.028,  0.042,  0.021,  0.003,  0.006,  0.027, -0.014, -0.002,  0.003, -0.023, -0.023, -0.011, -0.044, -0.046, -0.021
                           -0.069, -0.036, -0.028,  0.003, -0.013,  0.001,  0.007, -0.025, -0.016, -0.037,  0.005,  0.008,  0.022,  0.048,  0.013, -0.010,  0.033
                           -0.020,  0.002,  0.040,  0.050,  0.027,  0.018,  0.038,  0.008, -0.017, -0.002,  0.009,  0.005, -0.013, -0.022, -0.053, -0.060, -0.017
                           -0.039, -0.039, -0.021, -0.024, -0.013, -0.014,  0.025,  0.009,  0.022,  0.003,  0.027,  0.019,  0.037, -0.007, -0.018, -0.023, -0.017
                           -0.046, -0.007, -0.005,  0.012,  0.032,  0.033,  0.036,  0.051,  0.002,  0.025, -0.038, -0.050, -0.071, -0.054, -0.092, -0.072, -0.051
                           -0.033, -0.036, -0.022, -0.010, -0.008,  0.002,  0.034,  0.038,  0.049,  0.024, -0.024, -0.057, -0.051, -0.092, -0.085, -0.081, -0.055
                                0, -0.014,  0.025,  0.041,  0.051,  0.041,  0.046,  0.024,  0.005, -0.027, -0.049, -0.096, -0.123, -0.098, -0.133, -0.085,      0
                                0,      0,  0.032,  0.038,  0.061,  0.048,  0.035,  0.009, -0.034, -0.060, -0.099, -0.114, -0.106, -0.122, -0.132,      0,      0
                                0,      0,      0,  0.080,  0.075,  0.071,  0.050, -0.002, -0.051, -0.079, -0.129, -0.149, -0.179, -0.158,      0,      0,      0
                                0,      0,      0,      0,  0.064,  0.049,  0.030,  0.020, -0.036, -0.089, -0.126, -0.164, -0.158,      0,      0,      0,      0
                          
                          
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                          • dc42undefined
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                            Have you verified the tower steps/mm? An error in the steps/mm setting has a similar effect to an error in the rod length, because it's the product of the two that needs to be right to get a flat print plane, assuming that the delta radius is adjusted to suit. Calibration with S7 gave you an increase in rod length from 340.5 to 342.5 which is abou 0.6%. If your real steps/mm is 0.6% smaller than the value you have used in config.g, that would have a similar effect.

                            Adjusting rod length or steps/mm will affect the scaling and geometry of printing. I suggest you print a maximum-size square, then check it for correct size and straight edges. Also print a large nought-and-crosses/tic-tac-toe pattern and check that the lines are parallel and correctly spaced.

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                            • droftartsundefined
                              droftarts administrators @Baenwort
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                              @Baenwort
                              Screenshot 2020-04-20 at 11.53.56.png

                              It's still quite similar to before, and ignoring the effector tilt, the underlying pattern is still the same.

                              Had written some suggestions, but then saw @dc42 reply; try that!

                              Ian

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                                @dc42 I have 1.8 degree steppers with 20T pulleys from SeeMeCNC. Per their github and wiki this means I should be using 80 steps/mm for the axis and 91 steps/mm for the EZR Struders. This is what is in my config.g and I'm not sure if you are suggesting I should take 94% percent of 80 and use that?

                                I can switch out to. 9 steppers and 16T pulleys as I do have them on hand but I wanted to do this upgrade one component at a time.

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                                  I printed a large circle with crossing lines (the SeeMeCNC test wheel found at https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3002657 or see my picture) and it measured well.

                                  I am currently looking for a good large square that is the right size to fill the bed. How close to a full bed do I need? The bed is a 310mm circle but I don't plan to print larger than 280mm.

                                  20200425_230046[1].jpg
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                                    Did a 150mm square as that is the largest accurate measurement device I have.

                                    Printed in ABS.

                                    20200426_133547.jpg

                                    I don't understand what you mean by a toe print. Can you provide a reference I can scale in Cura?

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