G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed

Phaedrux

@agrapa said in G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed:

The graph circle positions could represent the position of the nozzle or the position of the probe.

It represents neither. It shows the Z height adjustment at a point in absolute X Y space. The point was obtained by the probe, so the probe has to be able to reach it. Whether the nozzle can also reach it depends entirely on how big the offset is, and how far the axis can travel. As you found, the probe can reach -37, and if there were bed there to probe, it could create a point, but the nozzle could never reach it. On the right side, it's the opposite situation. The nozzle can reach where the probe cannot.

@agrapa said in G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed:

then there should not be a strip on the left

I think you're imagining a strip on the left that doesn't actually exist. The heightmap is showing you the green area which is the area probed. And the point at the bottom left is (1,10) which is the corner of the bed. I'm not sure why you think there is more bed to the left of that point. There isn't.

agrapa

Also, why would it have a warning that says "Skipping grid point (185.0, 80.0) because Z probe cannot reach it" if I can use the "machine control" button labelled "X+100" to make the nozzle reach X=197 ?

agrapa

Oh, I see. I thought the graph represented the bed and the empty strip on the left of the graph made me thing something was wrong. Thanks for the explanation.

Phaedrux

The nozzle can reach it, but the probe cannot. You've set M557 to use a grid which contains points that the probe cannot reach.

M208 X197 means that the reference nozzle can go as far as that point and no further.

G31 X-34.6 means the probe is to the left of the reference nozzle by 34.6

197-34.6 = 162.4 So the rightmost point you can reach with the probe is X162

Your M557 is asking to probe at X185, which it cannot reach, so it skips it.

Phaedrux

@agrapa said in G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed:

Thanks for the explanation.

No problem. I hope it all makes some sense now.

agrapa

@Phaedrux said in G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed:

Your M557 is asking to probe at X185, which it cannot reach, so it skips it

perfect explanation, thanks a lot!

Phaedrux

@Phaedrux said in G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed:

The best way to maximize the mesh grid is to take your M208 as the bed surface, then add/subtract your probe offsets. That will give you the area for M577 that the probe can reach. Adjust it slightly so that you can get a whole number of points within it. Tip, if you send an M577 with a unreasonably high number of probing points it will suggest the actual maximum to you.

Now that you understand what it's doing, this part should make better sense on how to maximize your M557 grid

agrapa

Indeed, now it is perfect, thanks a lot!

dc42

@Phaedrux said in G29 bed mesh leaving a large area unprobed:

The best way to maximize the mesh grid is to take your M208 as the bed surface, then add/subtract your probe offsets. That will give you the area for M577 that the probe can reach.

I would add to that: then constrain this resulting area to the parts that are over the bed. Otherwise you could be probing off the edge of the bed.

droftarts

I think the confusion here was because the array of probed points is centred on the grid, so it looks like there’s area not probed on the left and right. However, the probed points report their position, and you saw the bed probing close to X0, so I’m not sure how we can make this clearer.

@dc42 @chrishamm maybe show the M208 limits on the mesh display? Though this doesn’t necessarily show the bed.

Ian

agrapa

@droftarts Not sure if it would make sense, but have the grid drawing represent the bed? For instance: in Prusa Slicer I see a grid with the exact size of the bed, and every square represents 10mmx10mm. It makes it very easy to plan multiple prints or to position a large print correctly on the bed.