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    Gerrard
    last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 08:13

    Hi All,

    Quick updated. I spent most of today tuning settings and speeds - mostly in search of good quality and super high speeds.

    I added an equal angle to the back of the gantry in the hope of curing some of the vibration, and it's done the trick for sure - which validates the flexing hypothesis.

    20200606_125952.jpg

    I reduced the acceleration slightly (at the same time) and started cranking up the speed. I've managed to achieve 300mm/s on a simple thin walled square with only the faintest trace of ringing so I'm thrilled with that result. I did get a problem with under extrusion at about the 200mm/s mark, but I cured that by just turning the nozzle temp up to 220°C, and that cured it.

    20200606_174921.jpg

    My final settings were

    300mm/s for all surfaces (walls, top and bottom layers).
    100mm/s for initial layers.
    500mm/s^2 Accel (all conditions)
    9mm/s Jerk.

    I feel like I could go a fair bit higher on the accel, so I'm going to try pushing that a little harder over time.

    I do however have another problem (pre-existing)... I'll start a new thread for that to keep this clean.

    Thanks all.

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      jens55
      last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 12:22

      What could cause this? I'm assuming it's a G-Code thing since it wasn't there before.

      On my printer (CR10 style) this would be caused by an incorrect pressure advance parameter.

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        Gerrard @jens55
        last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 13:21

        Hi @jens55 - As above, it seems to be related to the stiffness of the gantry... increasing the stiffness made the problem go away.

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          NitroFreak
          last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 13:39

          DAA (M593) has an inherent flaw in that it only really works perfectly when there is 0 jerk.
          Unfortunately it´s usually the jerk that causes most of the ringing...

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            jens55
            last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 14:52

            I somehow missed the picture with the final settings when I replied earlier.
            That surface finish is incredible! I have never seen finish like that before even at a much lower speed. It's amazing what can be done if you don't sling a 2 kg (or whatever) bed around !

            Thanks for posting that ....

            Hmmmm ..... food or new 3D printer ..... well this seems a good enough reason to go on a diet!

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              Gerrard @jens55
              last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 23:41

              @jens55 It's worth noting that I was only printing at 0.2mm layer height. It's easy (easier?) to get a nice finish at lower layer height - there's less molten plastic to deal with.

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                jens55
                last edited by 7 Jun 2020, 00:51

                At 300 mm/sec you can print as fast with 0.2 mm layers as I can go with a 1 mm layer height! It just amazes the hell out of me!
                I hope that you might have a chance to share more pictures of your build as it progresses (or when it's ready for prime time).

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                  mrehorstdmd @jens55
                  last edited by 7 Jun 2020, 01:45

                  @jens55 with acceleration at 500 mm/sec^2 and jerk at 9 mm/sec, the printer probably never actually achieves 300 mm/sec.

                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                    JoergS5 @jens55
                    last edited by 7 Jun 2020, 08:50

                    @jens55 said in CoreXY Ringing:

                    Hmmmm ..... food or new 3D printer ..... well this seems a good enough reason to go on a diet!

                    With a good multipaterial printer you can print your food! 😉

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                      Gerrard @mrehorstdmd
                      last edited by 8 Jun 2020, 10:35

                      @mrehorstdmd The bed is 800x870 so there's plenty of room to move. But you're right, you need a bigger print. I'll increase Accel and Jerk soon - I decreased them to help eliminate those defects initially.

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                        mrehorstdmd @Gerrard
                        last edited by 8 Jun 2020, 11:27

                        @Gerrard Now look at corners of a square print- at low jerk and accel they then to get fat and rounded. Everything is a trade off.

                        https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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