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    • MartinNYHCundefined
      MartinNYHC
      last edited by MartinNYHC

      Hi All,

      I would like to know which steppers you guys are recommending for a CR-10S Pro with a Duet 2. Would be nice if they fit to the printer without any modifications.

      Thanks,Martin

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by Phaedrux

        I don't have any specific recommendations but, check out https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/
        You can sort and filter the motors down to match nema 17, and then match the motor length. The Duet 2 sweet spot would be around 2a motors. Choose either 1.8 or 0.9 degree.

        Here are a few candidates for 0.9 motors: https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-stepper-motor/?mfp=149-step-angle[0.9],148-bipolar-unipolar[Bipolar],71-single-shaft-dual-shaft[Single Shaft],21-shaft-type[D-Cut],22-shaft-diameter-mm[5]

        For some background on what you want out of a stepper motor for 3d printing check out this article. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors

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        • MartinNYHCundefined
          MartinNYHC
          last edited by

          For X, Y and E that should fit, but a body length of 48mm is too much for the Z axis.

          IMG_0012.jpg

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Limit your search to 34mm motors

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            • MartinNYHCundefined
              MartinNYHC
              last edited by

              Yes, sure 😉 For 0.9 there are no results. For 1.8 there are four but the max. current is 1.33A. My intention was to hit the sweet spot 🙂

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                The Z axis doesn't get a lot of action so the specs don't need to be at the same level as x and y.

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                • MartinNYHCundefined
                  MartinNYHC
                  last edited by

                  That's true.

                  Based on the availability in Germany I've choosen:

                  2 x 17HM19-2004S1 for X/Y
                  2 x 17HS13-0404S1 for Z
                  1 x 17HS08-1004S for E

                  Do you think that works satisfactorily?

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Yes those look ok provided the Z motor will fit. The E motor will be ok when using a geared extruder, but those tiny pancakes have limitations on torque that you will need to be aware of. I use those X Y motors on my corexy and have been happy with them.

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                    • MartinNYHCundefined
                      MartinNYHC
                      last edited by

                      I'm using a Bondtech BMG-M with Mosquito. I think that will work.

                      Thanks for your help!

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                      • MartinNYHCundefined
                        MartinNYHC
                        last edited by

                        Good news is, that the steppers are attached to the printer. Bad news is, my printer is louder than before 😵

                        Joking aside. Now i seem to have a Z axis problem. It makes a terrible very very loud noise when moving. Just found out, that the steppers are making noises when moving and the noise is transfered to the Z axis thread and will be boosted.

                        Am I doing something wrong? Changed the currents in the config

                        M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E700 I50	                    	; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        

                        I'm a little bit irritated now 😞

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                        • MartinNYHCundefined
                          MartinNYHC
                          last edited by

                          Here's a video without Z axis thread

                          https://youtu.be/FYeSaApQHEA

                          and with Z axis thread

                          https://youtu.be/VqZP_wAFFvw

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Yeah that's not right. Are those the new motors you replaced or the old ones?

                            Do they sound the same detached from the frame?

                            Are the motor phases matched?

                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

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                            • MartinNYHCundefined
                              MartinNYHC
                              last edited by MartinNYHC

                              That's the new ones! 😞 Yes, they are also quite noisy when detached. Already checked the phases. Also played around with the settings but without success. I have no idea what to do next.

                              My current settings are

                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0 S1                                          	; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                              M569 P1 S1                                          	; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                              M569 P2 S1                                          	; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                              M569 P3 S0                                          	; physical drive 3 goes backwards
                              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 	                                 	; set drive mapping
                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1		                          	; configure microstepping with interpolation
                              M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E415.00			 	           		; set steps per mm
                              M566 P1 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z12.00 E2000.00		      	; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z800.00 E5000.00			      	; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E5000.00	        		; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X1600 Y1600 Z600 E700 I50	                    	; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M593 F31		
                              ;M572 D0 S0.05		                                  	; set pressure advance
                              M84 S30                                             	; Set idle timeout
                              
                              
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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I would say something is wrong with the motor.

                                Test the Z motor on another driver just to be sure.

                                How fast are you trying to move the motor?

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                                • MartinNYHCundefined
                                  MartinNYHC
                                  last edited by

                                  Both Z steppers have the same issue.

                                  G91              ; relative positioning
                                  G1 Z5 F3000	H1	 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                  G90              ; absolute positioning
                                  G1 X150 Y150 F6000 ; go to first probe point
                                  G30              ; home Z by probing the bed
                                  
                                  
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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Does the model label on the motor match what you ordered?

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                                    • MartinNYHCundefined
                                      MartinNYHC
                                      last edited by

                                      Good hint. Yes, they match.

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        And what is the model? Maybe we can check the specs again.

                                        Did you try the motor on a different driver to eliminate the Z driver? You're using both motors on the Z driver, correct?

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                                        • MartinNYHCundefined
                                          MartinNYHC
                                          last edited by

                                          https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-bipolar-0-9deg-46ncm-65-1oz-in-2a-2-8v-42x42x48mm-4-wires-full-d-cut-shaft.html?search=17HM19-2004S1

                                          Nope, didn't try a different driver. Just connected a Creality 42-34 and it works.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            You miss my point. I'm wondering how the motors will sound when wired to a seperate driver rather than the Z driver which is wired in series internally.

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