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    • tech-ratonundefined
      tech-raton
      last edited by tech-raton

      Yup the red thing is a remote extruder.

      The watercooling on the corexy is just a 8mm aluminium part with 7 holes drilled
      A m7 for the heatbreak
      2 m5 for the pushfits
      A m4 to connect the 2 m5 holes
      3 m3 holes to attach on the carriage

      On the delta, the hotend is a maxiwatt with a homemade silicon sock
      And yes with a piezo as z probe

      Why you heat

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      • jens55undefined
        jens55
        last edited by

        Thanks for the clarification!

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        • tech-ratonundefined
          tech-raton @fma
          last edited by

          @fma

          Why have 4 pushfits?

          You could make a u shape inside your watercooling.
          It will reduce the flow but will increase the heat exchange.

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          • fmaundefined
            fma @jens55
            last edited by

            @jens55 said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

            OK so the water cooling block is a straight through drill and then a loop on the far side back into the cooler ?

            Exactly.

            The ptfe tube goes straight to the heat break ?

            Yes.

            I assume the top thing is the ptfe coupling ?

            No, this is the standard groove for hotends. It is designed for direct extruding. But you can modify this part (3D-printed) for Bowden, using a coupler thread.

            Is the nut captive somehow in the assembly ? How ?

            The 3D-printed part is made in 2 parts (split along the vertical axis), and glued together (there are 2 holes to help aligning it. Here is a closer view:

            Capture d’écran_2020-07-02_06-52-11.png

            Sorry about all the questions ....

            You welcome! This design hasn't beed tested, and I would love to have feedback if you go that way.

            Frédéric

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            • fmaundefined
              fma @tech-raton
              last edited by

              @tech-raton said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

              Why have 4 pushfits?

              Easier to do.

              You could make a u shape inside your watercooling.

              How? I only have a drill...

              It will reduce the flow but will increase the heat exchange.

              It is the same, as I use a small external tube to make the half turn.

              Frédéric

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              • fmaundefined
                fma @tech-raton
                last edited by

                @tech-raton said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                On the delta, the hotend is a maxiwatt with a homemade silicon sock

                Thanks! I'll have a look at this block...

                Frédéric

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55
                  last edited by

                  Ahh, clever! If the ptfe tube is captured by clamping pressure that seems to make clearing a clog kinda tough ???

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                  • fmaundefined
                    fma @jens55
                    last edited by fma

                    @jens55 said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                    Ahh, clever! If the ptfe tube is captured by clamping pressure that seems to make clearing a clog kinda tough ???

                    As said, I didn't test it, and it may not work as expected. A longer heat break should be better, but I'm not sure if we can find one... But yes, the PTFE tube has to be clampled down, with the above part (extruder or bowden push fit).

                    Frédéric

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                    • jens55undefined
                      jens55
                      last edited by

                      Well I think that it shows great promise!

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                      • fmaundefined
                        fma
                        last edited by

                        The goal of this design was to be able to use it in a standard setup (groove), but if you can customize the extruder side, it might be improved...
                        Another thing to check is if the 3D-printed part can handle the temperature. It should if the water flow is good, but better use PET-G or ABS.

                        Frédéric

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                        • fmaundefined
                          fma @tech-raton
                          last edited by

                          @tech-raton said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                          And yes with a piezo as z probe

                          Do you have a CAD design of your setup, with Piezo? It is a nice and compact solution...

                          Frédéric

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                          • tech-ratonundefined
                            tech-raton @fma
                            last edited by

                            @fma

                            With only a drill (and a screw), you could have a u shape.

                            image.png

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                            • tech-ratonundefined
                              tech-raton @fma
                              last edited by

                              @fma yes i think i have it.

                              What kind of files do you want?

                              I work on catia

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                              • fmaundefined
                                fma
                                last edited by

                                Ok, I see for the U. I will do that the next time!

                                STEP is ok for the CAD files. Thanks!

                                Frédéric

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                                • deckingmanundefined
                                  deckingman
                                  last edited by

                                  Do any of you guys have any links to the tube, fittings, and pump that you use. I'd like to use the smallest possible tubing and the quietest possible pump.

                                  Ian
                                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                  • fmaundefined
                                    fma
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm about to test a car windshield water pump, for which I made a custom tank. I don't know if it will last long if on all the time, but it was on my old 350000km car, and still working fine! I think it is unbreakable 😉

                                    It has very small outputs, good for 2mm ID silicone tubes. The nice thing is it has 2 outputs (front and rear windshields), depending on the rotation direction of the pump, it sends water on one or the other.

                                    See :
                                    https://www.oscaro.com/pompe-de-lave-glace-peugeot-806-2-0-i-turbo-149cv-794-22222-0-gt#

                                    Frédéric

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                                    • deckingmanundefined
                                      deckingman @fma
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                                      @fma Those things tend to be bloody noisy. You don't really notice it when it's fitted in the engine bay, the other side of a bulkhead covered in sound deadening material. I don't think I could put up with one of those screaming away continuously, but let me know how you get on with it.

                                      Ian
                                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                      • fmaundefined
                                        fma
                                        last edited by

                                        I agree, at full speed, it is very noisy! But I think it will be ok to use it under 3V or 4V, so it should be much quiter.

                                        Frédéric

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                                        • fškundefined
                                          fšk @fma
                                          last edited by fšk

                                          @fma I also ordered the same set but i don't think it's ever coming.
                                          I'm using this pump and it's silent unless you put your ear next to it.

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User @fma
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                                            @fma said in Mosquito vs water cooling:

                                            But I think it will be ok to use it under 3V or 4V,

                                            let us know how you get on and what flow rate you get with 2mm ID and undervolting the pump

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