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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      I thought we would at elast get something back from M558 P1.

      Please try sending the full M558 command from your config.g in the console.

      I can't remember if I asked before, but can you send M98 P"config.g" and see what you get for errors and messages?

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      • Chrissundefined
        Chriss @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux said in Strange homing behavior:

        I thought we would at elast get something back from M558 P1.

        Please try sending the full M558 command from your config.g in the console.

        I did not fully understand what you mean. 😞 I added "M558 P1" at the end of config.g, without any result. I do not see any output of that, nowhere.

        I tried telnet:

        [chriss@leela ~]$ telnet 192.168.1.170
        Trying 192.168.1.170...
        Connected to 192.168.1.170.
        Escape character is '^]'.
        M558 P1
        ok
        

        I can't remember if I asked before, but can you send M98 P"config.g" and see what you get for errors and messages?

        I guess that you mean "M98 P"0:/sys/config.g""

        [chriss@leela ~]$ telnet 192.168.1.170
        Trying 192.168.1.170...
        Connected to 192.168.1.170.
        Escape character is '^]'.
        M98 P"0:/sys/config.g"
        HTTP is enabled on port 80
        FTP is enabled on port 21
        TELNET is enabled on port 23
        Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 270C
        Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 486C
        ok
        

        So no parsing error if you where aiming for that.

        Cheers, Chriss

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          I mean send this in the console
          M558 P1 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000
          G31 P500 X-26.0 Y-9.0 Z1.85

          And then try your homing.

          Though I'm starting to wonder if it's something wrong with the IR probe itself.

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          • Chrissundefined
            Chriss @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux said in Strange homing behavior:

            I mean send this in the console
            M558 P1 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000
            G31 P500 X-26.0 Y-9.0 Z1.85

            And then try your homing.

            Done, with the same result, the probe get triggered in the air.

            Though I'm starting to wonder if it's something wrong with the IR probe itself.

            I have to admit that you may be right. I have in total 3 of the ir-probes here. Two for my corexy build and the one in my CR10.
            I replaced the one at my CR10 now with a other one. That seems not brand new any more, but it seems to work now. :?
            But it is a bit to early for me to blame the bl-touch. I will play a bit more with the new one before I will confirm that the new one is working.

            And I will put the suspicious probe into the corexy for some tests.

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            • Chrissundefined
              Chriss @Chriss
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              @Phaedrux

              Can you explain the homeall.g to me, please?
              I'm fully confused now. I removed the "M98" so source the homez.g from the homeall.g. So it looks like that now:

              ; homeall.g
              ; called to home all axes
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Sun May 10 2020 08:05:32 GMT+0200 (Central European Summer Time)
              G91                     ; relative positioning
              G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 X-315 Y-315 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
              G1 H1 X-315 Y-315 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
              
              
              ;M98 P"0:/sys/homez.g"
              

              And you know what? The printer homes Z after it homed X and Y. WTF? I added a "beep" into the homez.g to test whether it get executed and not. And the printer beeped when I executed "G28" right after it homed X and Y.
              So I think that the homez.g is executed whether I execute it or not.
              Is that the expected behavior?

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              • JoergS5undefined
                JoergS5 @Chriss
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                @Chriss said in Strange homing behavior:

                But it is a bit to early for me to blame the bl-touch. I will play a bit more with

                Do you mean your "IR probe" is a BLTouch? This would not be an IR probe and is configurated differently.

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                • Chrissundefined
                  Chriss @JoergS5
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                  @JoergS5 said in Strange homing behavior:

                  @Chriss said in Strange homing behavior:

                  But it is a bit to early for me to blame the bl-touch. I will play a bit more with

                  Do you mean your "IR probe" is a BLTouch? This would not be an IR probe and is configurated differently.

                  Ahhhh.. no.. it is a IR-Probe! Not a BL-Touch, I replaces the BL-Touch with the IR-Probe.. sorry for the confusion. Forget the BL-Touch please..... My bad. 😞

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                  • JoergS5undefined
                    JoergS5 @Chriss
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                    @Chriss ok - this would be the easist solution 🙂

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @Chriss
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                      @Chriss if you run homeall and the Z is homed unexpectedly: do you have any special files lying around in the sys or macros folder, which could produce this behavior (tool changing, override,...)? To find the reason, you should delete every files and lines which are not needed. (backup all first)

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                      • Chrissundefined
                        Chriss @JoergS5
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                        @JoergS5

                        Hmmm... maybe but I do not see it, to be honest. I downloaded the content from the sdcard and grepped a bit in the files. The only files I found, which contain "G30" are:

                        macros/00_Z-Level:G30 P0 X20 Y155 Z-99999; probe near a leadscrew, half way along Y axis
                        macros/00_Z-Level:G30 P1 X250 Y155 Z-99999 S2 ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 2 motors
                        sys/bed.g:G30 P0 X20 Y155 Z-99999; probe near a leadscrew, half way along Y axis
                        sys/bed.g:G30 P1 X250 Y155 Z-99999 S2 ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 2 motors
                        Binary file sys/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin matches
                        sys/homez.g:G30 
                        sys/homez.g:;G30               ; home Z by probing the bed
                        sys/homez.g:;G30 
                        
                        

                        I fully understand your approach but I do not see any unexpected file. Or a file which may have it's bits in the cake.

                        I'm still very confused that the IR probe, which caused all the problems in the CR10, works very, very well in the corexy. :?

                        Directory listing of the CR10:

                        ftp> cd macros
                        250 Directory successfully changed.
                        ftp> dir
                        227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,170,136,148)
                        150 Here comes the directory listing.
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           641 Mar 12 2019 01-Test_IR_PD_Homing
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           640 May 30 2018 02-Test_Fans
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          1099 May 24 2018 03-Test_Heaters
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          2223 Mar 12 2019 04-Test_motors
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           156 Jul 15 2019 SETNETWORK
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           434 Jun 07 2020 99_Chriss_Beep
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           199 Jul 02 2020 00_Z-Level
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp             7 Jun 07 2020 Allow Cold Extrude
                        226 Transfer complete.
                        ftp> cd ..
                        250 Directory successfully changed.
                        ftp> cd sys
                        250 Directory successfully changed.
                        ftp> dir
                        227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,170,162,76)
                        150 Here comes the directory listing.
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           462 Jul 02 2020 bed.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          4782 Jul 03 2020 config.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           483 Jun 22 2020 cancel.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          1329 Jun 30 2020 stop.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          4772 Jul 03 2020 config.g.bak
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp        277520 Feb 19 2019 DuetWiFiServer.bin
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          3518 May 10 2020 config.json
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp         60164 May 03 2019 iap4e.bin
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           843 Jun 28 2020 pause.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           481 Jul 02 2020 start.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           406 May 10 2020 resume.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           181 May 10 2020 sleep.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           716 Jul 02 2020 resurrect.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           168 May 10 2020 tfree0.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           228 May 10 2020 tpost0.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           172 May 10 2020 tpre0.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           126 May 17 2020 test1log.txt
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           432 Jun 27 2020 test2log.txt
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           354 May 10 2020 test3log.txt
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp            42 Aug 27 2019 test4log.txt
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp        506772 May 19 2020 Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp        277520 Apr 29 2020 DuetWiFiServer-1.23.bin
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           944 Jul 03 2020 homeall.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           567 May 20 2020 homey.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           210 May 10 2020 deployprobe.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           566 May 20 2020 homex.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           983 Jul 03 2020 homez.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           432 Jun 28 2020 heightmap.csv
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           213 May 10 2020 retractprobe.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp           509 Jun 23 2020 config-override.g
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp         40804 May 10 2020 Duet2CombinedIAP.bin
                        -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp ftp          3279 Jul 03 2020 dwc2settings.json
                        226 Transfer complete.
                        ftp> 
                        
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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5 @Chriss
                          last edited by JoergS5

                          @Chriss I can explain my approach: you say when you run homeall, your Z is homed. But homeall doesn't contain any Z movement (only Z5), so there must be anything which makes the Z movement to trigger the signal. So I thought, something automatic like a tool change (tfree, tpost), heating up or something other could trigger the Z movement.

                          Looking at your files, bed.g could be triggered somehow.

                          Other possibility: if you run homeall and the X and Y are already in their endstop positions, is there something specific so the IR probe triggers immediately? (is the position of the IR probe outside your bed, e.g.? => could be the case, as X is 26 and Y 9 mm off the nozzle. To try you could position X and Y somewhere in the middle of the bed before calling homeall) And if IR triggers if it is outside the bed, it may be that the probe must be inverted with a ! in the M558 C command and maybe reduce sensitivity value G31 P value.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Chriss
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                            @Chriss said in Strange homing behavior:

                            And you know what? The printer homes Z after it homed X and Y. WTF? I added a "beep" into the homez.g to test whether it get executed and not. And the printer beeped when I executed "G28" right after it homed X and Y.
                            So I think that the homez.g is executed whether I execute it or not.
                            Is that the expected behavior?

                            That's pretty peculiar.

                            Can you add an M400 before the M98 to call the homez? That should ensure it's finished all the previous X Y homing moves before moving on.

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                            • Chrissundefined
                              Chriss @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux

                              Indeed, it is very peculiar. Well, I needed a break, to I used the weekend do work on my fun car, that was bit more promising. 😉

                              I tested this morning 8-10 times with "G28" and all axes got homed. And this is the homeall.g:

                              ; homeall.g
                              ; called to home all axes
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Sun May 10 2020 08:05:32 GMT+0200 (Central European Summer Time)
                              G91                     ; relative positioning
                              G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
                              G1 H1 X-315 Y-315 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                              G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                              G1 H1 X-315 Y-315 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                              
                              
                              M400
                              ;M98 P"0:/sys/homez.g"
                              
                              

                              Yes, Z got homed and yes, the beep from the homez.g changed every time I changed it. So there can be no other file involved.

                              I do not know why but the trigger up in the air went completely away. :? All of my test this morning where successful. Do not ask my why, the only change from last week was a very, very long power cycle.

                              But it is very odd to see the homing of Z but you know that you do not execute it from homeall.g. :?

                              Anyway, my main problem, the trigger in the air, is magically gone now. I'm not sure if I want to touch that again or not, it is working for now. 😉

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                Actually I think this is totally normal. Homeall is homing all axis. It completed the homeall.g and the z axis was still unhomed, so it executes home z.

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