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    • BlueDustundefined
      BlueDust @arhi
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      @arhi

      That is awesome! I am still trying to go through this and understand the settings, and review the preview, but now I am getting an error.

      im slice error.PNG

      I have fixed this before in S3d, but it's been awhile, and not sure what to do in iM.
      I did change the extrusion width from .40 to .48 and that didn't fix it.

      Thanks for the help!

      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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      • BlueDustundefined
        BlueDust @BlueDust
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        @BlueDust
        I found it. Infil was printing layer twice as thick to save time...

        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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        • arhiundefined
          arhi
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          that happens when you use "combine layers" for infill or support to print more then one layer at a time for them... I usually do this as for e.g. with 0.6mm nozzle I can easily print 0.1mm layer height for the perimeter and 0.5mm layer for the infill so I set layer height to 0.1mm and for infill i do "combine layers = 5" ... but for some layer height and nozzle sizes it will go out of the "safety margin" that is extrusion width must be 20% more than layer height and if you for e.g. do 0.5mm line with 0.4mm nozzle and 0.25mm layer height if you set combine layers for infill to 2 it will try to print infill at 0.5mm layer height and that's not very safe with 0.4mm nozzle so you will get that warning

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          • arhiundefined
            arhi
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            pay attention to "connect infill lines endpoints" makes a part stronger but adds basically one more perimeter so if you turn that on, you can drop one perimeter compared to s3d for e.g.

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            • BlueDustundefined
              BlueDust
              last edited by

              @arhi said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

              "connect infill lines endpoints" makes a part stronger but adds basically one more perimeter so if you turn that on, you can drop one perimeter compared to s3d for e.g.

              Very helpful!
              I really appreciate all you have shared!

              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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              • arhiundefined
                arhi @BlueDust
                last edited by

                @BlueDust glad it helps, just be sure to understand I'm not the IM master 😄 I moved to it from S3D not long ago, I still know S3D much better, but I'm getting better results with IM so I'm not going back to S3D

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                • BlueDustundefined
                  BlueDust @arhi
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                  @arhi
                  I am in the same boat with S3d, and hope to move to iM. I just wish I stumbled upon it sooner. If I had known the main screen was setup like S3d, I would have started playing with it at least 6 months ago. Saying that, it does seem iM is a bit more complicated... a steeper learning curve then S3d. I have high hopes my transition to iM goes well. Once I stop doing test prints, and actually calibrate the extrusion multiplier for iM, I think I will feel much better about using it.
                  Also, I am am thinking about building another printer in the next month+ and if so, iM seems to be a bit easier to manage multiple printers then S3d would hae been.

                  Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                  • Kolbiundefined
                    Kolbi @BlueDust
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                    @BlueDust Chris Warkocki has a YouTube playlist on iM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpCn3DiZKgA&list=PLwRi4UU5eIHOQd7N5Mj8gasNTctZV5694

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                    • arhiundefined
                      arhi @BlueDust
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                      @BlueDust I try them all from time to time, still like the visual's and the organization of the craftware the best, also, the communication I had with different dev teams, craftware team was quickest to answer, most open and friendly than any other team I talked to, but while really eye candy and best gcode preview out there as a slicer they are not IMHO on par with IM.

                      I have this toolchanger sitting next to me for 9 months now and still not being turned on 😞 ( that now seems to be a mistake on my part, purchasing it from e3d but who knew the year would go to #%^$^#&* like 2020 did ) so I can't say how IM will behave with multiple tools. With dual nozzle it behaves "ok-ish", there are some things that I dislike (like left/right distinction, what's primary etc etc) but could work around .. I just hope it will work as expected with multiple tools when I need it to ..

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                      • BlueDustundefined
                        BlueDust
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for the help guys!
                        Where are the settings to adjust X or Y dimensional accuracy?
                        I printed a calibration cube, and X is a tad larger than expected, while Y is also a tad smaller...

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                        • Kolbiundefined
                          Kolbi
                          last edited by

                          Is the dimensional accuracy evident regardless of which slicer you are using?

                          🤔 If it is evident, regardless of slicer being employed, I'd think that would mean that you should check your steps per mm in config.g with settings of M92?

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                          • BlueDustundefined
                            BlueDust @Kolbi
                            last edited by BlueDust

                            @Kolbi
                            No... It worked fine in S3d. I checked two cubes I printed in S3d to confirm before I asked.
                            I just measured everything again and S3d was off by .03 or .04 mm difference of X and Y cube. iM seems more like .07mm+, but one of the walls is also thicker than the other 3, so that may be the problem. But it's only thicker by .05 mm (between thinnest and thickest wall)... I didn't have this much of a difference using S3d. The difference between .01 or .02 mm between walls was expected/normal. I will keep playing with this later, and not sure if I am being too picky or not. Will try and check belts ect. As I did complete a long print between these sets of cubes testing iM, something maybe lose.
                            I know where the setting is S3d is to adjust dimensional Accuracy and confirmed it was set to 0, so I never had to touch it.

                            Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                            • Kolbiundefined
                              Kolbi @BlueDust
                              last edited by Kolbi

                              @BlueDust Ah, ok. Try going into printer settings and then the advanced tab.
                              Screen Shot 2020-08-09 at 8.04.15 AM.png

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                              • arhiundefined
                                arhi @BlueDust
                                last edited by

                                @BlueDust said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

                                iM seems more like .07mm+

                                need to calibrate flow rate for the IM, you cannot use the same value as with S3D as I think they do the calculation differently

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                                • BlueDustundefined
                                  BlueDust @arhi
                                  last edited by

                                  @arhi
                                  I think I read some you or someone else already mentioning that???? I was printing 2 wall calibration cubes and found after a small change to the extrusion multiplier, I had 3 walls at .95 (should be .96) but the 4th wall was 1.00 and I didn't want to adjust it further until I fixed that. At the same time, I noticed the cubes Y was over 20mm and X was below 20mm, and asked for where settings were to fix that.... I really like the fact that iM will allow me to adjust both X and Y separately, as S3d only allows you to change Y if needed.
                                  After I was able to get the cube to be perfect 20x20 mm, I noticed that a single corner was bulging out and obviously effected my measurements. I have to do this again, but as it was late I just printed a Mini to see how well it came out. This morning I found it was super stringy, and now want to run a temp tower in iM as the retractions I am using is way too high and putting holes in the print... Has to be a temp thing... Hopefully by the end of the day I will have enough prints done to get this situated. Just have to figure out how to make the proper temp tower/temp changes by layers in iM. I think I know where the setting are, just haven't try to mess with it yet.

                                  Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                  • BlueDustundefined
                                    BlueDust @Kolbi
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                                    @Kolbi
                                    Thank you!

                                    Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                    • BlueDustundefined
                                      BlueDust
                                      last edited by

                                      Is there a way to see the temp changes per layer like I can with speed, when looking at the preview? In S3d, I could do this by just setting it to color code each process, and temp change was per process... I don't see an option like that in iM and hoping I just don't know where it is.

                                      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                      • Kolbiundefined
                                        Kolbi @BlueDust
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                                        @Blue, not that I know of.

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                                        • gorf26undefined
                                          gorf26
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                                          I tried ideamaker but i could not find a way to connect it to duet, the doc's show a wlan setup but i could not find it, looked at all the settings it did not show a custom printer and if i was to enter a IP address it was also looking for a serial number, or wouldn't work.
                                          Is there a way to connect to a custom printer?.

                                          Thanks

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                                          • arhiundefined
                                            arhi @gorf26
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                                            @gorf26 said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

                                            but i could not find a way to connect it to duet

                                            there is no way, you "show file in folder" after you export g-code and then manually upload to duet. all the network stuff in IM is for their own reise3d printers that use some special protocol themselves

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