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    • BlueDustundefined
      BlueDust @arhi
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      @arhi
      I am in the same boat with S3d, and hope to move to iM. I just wish I stumbled upon it sooner. If I had known the main screen was setup like S3d, I would have started playing with it at least 6 months ago. Saying that, it does seem iM is a bit more complicated... a steeper learning curve then S3d. I have high hopes my transition to iM goes well. Once I stop doing test prints, and actually calibrate the extrusion multiplier for iM, I think I will feel much better about using it.
      Also, I am am thinking about building another printer in the next month+ and if so, iM seems to be a bit easier to manage multiple printers then S3d would hae been.

      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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      • Kolbiundefined
        Kolbi @BlueDust
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        @BlueDust Chris Warkocki has a YouTube playlist on iM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpCn3DiZKgA&list=PLwRi4UU5eIHOQd7N5Mj8gasNTctZV5694

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        • arhiundefined
          arhi @BlueDust
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          @BlueDust I try them all from time to time, still like the visual's and the organization of the craftware the best, also, the communication I had with different dev teams, craftware team was quickest to answer, most open and friendly than any other team I talked to, but while really eye candy and best gcode preview out there as a slicer they are not IMHO on par with IM.

          I have this toolchanger sitting next to me for 9 months now and still not being turned on 😞 ( that now seems to be a mistake on my part, purchasing it from e3d but who knew the year would go to #%^$^#&* like 2020 did ) so I can't say how IM will behave with multiple tools. With dual nozzle it behaves "ok-ish", there are some things that I dislike (like left/right distinction, what's primary etc etc) but could work around .. I just hope it will work as expected with multiple tools when I need it to ..

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          • BlueDustundefined
            BlueDust
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            Thanks for the help guys!
            Where are the settings to adjust X or Y dimensional accuracy?
            I printed a calibration cube, and X is a tad larger than expected, while Y is also a tad smaller...

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            • Kolbiundefined
              Kolbi
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              Is the dimensional accuracy evident regardless of which slicer you are using?

              🤔 If it is evident, regardless of slicer being employed, I'd think that would mean that you should check your steps per mm in config.g with settings of M92?

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              • BlueDustundefined
                BlueDust @Kolbi
                last edited by BlueDust

                @Kolbi
                No... It worked fine in S3d. I checked two cubes I printed in S3d to confirm before I asked.
                I just measured everything again and S3d was off by .03 or .04 mm difference of X and Y cube. iM seems more like .07mm+, but one of the walls is also thicker than the other 3, so that may be the problem. But it's only thicker by .05 mm (between thinnest and thickest wall)... I didn't have this much of a difference using S3d. The difference between .01 or .02 mm between walls was expected/normal. I will keep playing with this later, and not sure if I am being too picky or not. Will try and check belts ect. As I did complete a long print between these sets of cubes testing iM, something maybe lose.
                I know where the setting is S3d is to adjust dimensional Accuracy and confirmed it was set to 0, so I never had to touch it.

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                • Kolbiundefined
                  Kolbi @BlueDust
                  last edited by Kolbi

                  @BlueDust Ah, ok. Try going into printer settings and then the advanced tab.
                  Screen Shot 2020-08-09 at 8.04.15 AM.png

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                  • arhiundefined
                    arhi @BlueDust
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                    @BlueDust said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

                    iM seems more like .07mm+

                    need to calibrate flow rate for the IM, you cannot use the same value as with S3D as I think they do the calculation differently

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                    • BlueDustundefined
                      BlueDust @arhi
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                      @arhi
                      I think I read some you or someone else already mentioning that???? I was printing 2 wall calibration cubes and found after a small change to the extrusion multiplier, I had 3 walls at .95 (should be .96) but the 4th wall was 1.00 and I didn't want to adjust it further until I fixed that. At the same time, I noticed the cubes Y was over 20mm and X was below 20mm, and asked for where settings were to fix that.... I really like the fact that iM will allow me to adjust both X and Y separately, as S3d only allows you to change Y if needed.
                      After I was able to get the cube to be perfect 20x20 mm, I noticed that a single corner was bulging out and obviously effected my measurements. I have to do this again, but as it was late I just printed a Mini to see how well it came out. This morning I found it was super stringy, and now want to run a temp tower in iM as the retractions I am using is way too high and putting holes in the print... Has to be a temp thing... Hopefully by the end of the day I will have enough prints done to get this situated. Just have to figure out how to make the proper temp tower/temp changes by layers in iM. I think I know where the setting are, just haven't try to mess with it yet.

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                      • BlueDustundefined
                        BlueDust @Kolbi
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                        @Kolbi
                        Thank you!

                        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                        • BlueDustundefined
                          BlueDust
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                          Is there a way to see the temp changes per layer like I can with speed, when looking at the preview? In S3d, I could do this by just setting it to color code each process, and temp change was per process... I don't see an option like that in iM and hoping I just don't know where it is.

                          Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                          • Kolbiundefined
                            Kolbi @BlueDust
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                            @Blue, not that I know of.

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                            • gorf26undefined
                              gorf26
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                              I tried ideamaker but i could not find a way to connect it to duet, the doc's show a wlan setup but i could not find it, looked at all the settings it did not show a custom printer and if i was to enter a IP address it was also looking for a serial number, or wouldn't work.
                              Is there a way to connect to a custom printer?.

                              Thanks

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                              • arhiundefined
                                arhi @gorf26
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                                @gorf26 said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

                                but i could not find a way to connect it to duet

                                there is no way, you "show file in folder" after you export g-code and then manually upload to duet. all the network stuff in IM is for their own reise3d printers that use some special protocol themselves

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                                • gorf26undefined
                                  gorf26
                                  last edited by gorf26

                                  I thought so but i was reading a doc file it showed a custom printer option and a wlan but it may have been an old version and haven't updated the doc..

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                                  • arhiundefined
                                    arhi @gorf26
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                                    @gorf26 said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

                                    I thought so but i was reading a doc file it showed a custom printer option and a wlan but it may have been an old version and haven't updated the doc..

                                    I didn't even find a way to call external script to upload file like I'm doing with s3d. If you figure out how, please share 😄

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                                    • botundefined
                                      bot @arhi
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                                      You could figure out a way to make the external script monitor a specific folder that, as soon as you save a gcode file to, it will upload to the duet/whatever.

                                      *not actually a robot

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                                      • arhiundefined
                                        arhi @bot
                                        last edited by

                                        @bot said in Slicer speed: S3d is faster then ideaMaker?:

                                        You could figure out a way to make the external script monitor a specific folder that, as soon as you save a gcode file to, it will upload to the duet/whatever.

                                        yes but that's not something I want to do. not on Linux/OSX and especially not on Windows

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                                        • BlueDustundefined
                                          BlueDust @arhi
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                                          @arhi
                                          You could create a scheduled task to run every 60 seconds (windows or Linux) to start a script that checks for a file in a folder. Once a file is there, ftp file and delete original.
                                          You could also create a script that start when PC powers on and just constantly checks same folder.

                                          Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                          • arhiundefined
                                            arhi @BlueDust
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                                            @BlueDust yes but NO 😄

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