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    Touchthebitum
    last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 13:45

    Hello
    I have a 220v 750w silicone bed from Keenovo wired correctly as seen in on other thread.
    I have a correct thermistor reading but when I'm doing PID tuning, the bed doesn't heat.
    I have a SSR :RS1a23d25s62 AC51:25amp 240v 3-32v
    Where am I wrong ?
    Thanks

    Here is my Heaters config :
    ; Heaters
    M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T95000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
    M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
    M307 H0 B0 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0 S-273.15 ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
    M308 S1 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T410000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
    M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

    Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
    BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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      dc42 administrators @Touchthebitum
      last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:06

      How have you connected the SSR to the Duet? Have you connected the + and - control input wires the right way round?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        Touchthebitum
        last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:14

        @dc42
        Duet3 (out0) instead of Duet2

        220v.jpg

        Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
        BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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          fcwilt
          last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:19

          Hi,

          Did you verify that 220 is present on the L and N wires?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            Touchthebitum @fcwilt
            last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:20

            @fcwilt
            No, with a tester ?

            Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
            BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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              fcwilt @Touchthebitum
              last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:26

              @Touchthebitum said in Keenovo 220v setup:

              @fcwilt
              No, with a tester ?

              I was just wondering if that power switch was wired/working correctly. I had one that was defective.

              Do you have a device that you can test for power on those wires?

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                Touchthebitum @fcwilt
                last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:27

                @fcwilt
                No, unfortunately 😞

                Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                  Touchthebitum
                  last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:33

                  out3/4 should be powered ?
                  20200816_162226.jpg

                  Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                  BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:39

                    If it's a Duet 3 then OUT0+ is powered from the +VOUT0_IN input terminal, not from +VIN.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      Touchthebitum @dc42
                      last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:41

                      @dc42
                      Yes it is a Duet3.
                      So I should power out_0 power in too from the PSU ?

                      Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                      BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                        pixelpieper
                        last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:42

                        The SSR does not take a lot of current on its input, you can use a thin wire and one of the fan headers to simplify your wiring. Keeps your bed output free for things such switching LED lights...

                        Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                        Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                          Touchthebitum @pixelpieper
                          last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:44

                          @pixelpieper
                          Ok, thanks but not sure I understand ..

                          Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                          BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                            pixelpieper @Touchthebitum
                            last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:46

                            @Touchthebitum I just had a look on the wiring diagram of the duet 3: you can configure your bed to use for example out 2 instead of the big screw terminals to control your SSR.

                            Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                            Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                              Touchthebitum @pixelpieper
                              last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:49

                              @pixelpieper
                              Ok, thanks

                              Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                              BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                pixelpieper @Touchthebitum
                                last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:51

                                @Touchthebitum Here is a sketch with the correct polarity for the SSR inputs: Screenshot 2020-08-16 at 16.48.09.png

                                You then have to adjust the configuration as follows:
                                M950 H0 C"out2" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0

                                Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                                Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                                  Touchthebitum @pixelpieper
                                  last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 14:52

                                  @pixelpieper
                                  Perfect 😉
                                  Thanks

                                  Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                                  BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                    Touchthebitum @pixelpieper
                                    last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 15:07

                                    @pixelpieper
                                    Great it works like a charm. Thanks

                                    Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                                    BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                                      pixelpieper @Touchthebitum
                                      last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 15:11

                                      @Touchthebitum Nice!

                                      Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                                      Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator @Touchthebitum
                                        last edited by 16 Aug 2020, 20:30

                                        @Touchthebitum said in Keenovo 220v setup:

                                        @fcwilt
                                        No, unfortunately 😞

                                        You're doing mains wiring without a multimeter? 😨
                                        I'm shocked, but hopefully you aren't! âš¡

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                                          Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by Touchthebitum 17 Aug 2020, 11:45

                                          @Phaedrux
                                          No, I misunderstood the question, I mean I'm not very clever with it 😉

                                          Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                                          BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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