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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      what is getting hot. the nozzle, the motor or the entire hemera?

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      • duttiundefined
        dutti
        last edited by

        the motor...

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          the motor is rated at 1.33A rated current.

          you should set it to 60-90% of the rated current.
          see
          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Setting_motor_currents
          try 75%

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          • duttiundefined
            dutti
            last edited by

            ok.... 75% motor current. Still not moving, weird sound.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @dutti
              last edited by

              recheck the cabling. one phase might have disconnected.
              if that happens you get a loud sound and no movement

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              • duttiundefined
                dutti
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                ok... it´s not getting hot anymore.

                I connected a different Nema and it´s working good. Connecting the hemera again and it´s still making this sound and no moving.
                Is it possible that the cable need to connect different?
                Are there different options?
                thanks

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @dutti
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                  @barbarossa-cologne said in Hemera goes wild! heat and no moving...:

                  Is it possible that the cable need to connect different?
                  Are there different options?

                  Yes, you must identify the motor phases for each motor and connect it appropriately. Not every motor is the same.

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

                  It could also be a loose crimp or bad connection.

                  Do you see any error messages in the gcode console?

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                  • duttiundefined
                    dutti @Phaedrux
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                    @Phaedrux
                    When I connect my old normal nema 17, it´s working fine. So I don´t think it´s a wiring problem.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      Does the motor have a plug of it's own or is the wiring internal to the motor?

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                      • duttiundefined
                        dutti @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux
                        Plug

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Well the problem as described would indicate that one of the motor phase wires isn't making a good connection at some point. If the same wiring works on one motor, but not the other, then it's most likely at the motor plug. Lucky it hasn't damaged the driver. Replace that motor.

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                          • duttiundefined
                            dutti
                            last edited by

                            ok.... so do you really think that the motor isn´t working correct?
                            tomorrow I´ll get a new E3D Hemera. Should I connect the new one to test it?
                            thanks!!

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Well if you think the wiring is good and it does work with another motor, then the motor plug pin may not be up to spec. I may want to try with new wiring just to test the motor for sure.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                use a multimeter and measure the phases. see if each phase has the same resistance

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                                • duttiundefined
                                  dutti @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux
                                  OK... I´ll connect the new motor tomorrow.

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                                  • duttiundefined
                                    dutti @Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    @Veti
                                    resistance is fine.

                                    Thanks

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      have you tried a different cable?

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
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                                        When using a motor with a plug on the body and a separate cable, you MUST confirm the phases with a multimeter or by other means, because the pinout of the connector is not standardised. Although if the cable was supplied by E3D as part of the Hemera kit, it ought to match.

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                                        • mitchundefined
                                          mitch
                                          last edited by mitch

                                          I found the hemera wiring to be different from my stock motor. I had to swap pins 3&4 when using the hemera.

                                          here is my wiring table i used with the duet:

                                          PDF: Extruder 0
                                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IE73tfQX7RgpArzxZJwyxEA-VIYsMFzE/view?usp=sharing

                                          https://www.randoprojects.com/2020/07/26/ender-5-w-hemera-and-duet-2/

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                                          • duttiundefined
                                            dutti
                                            last edited by

                                            yes... 6 different cables which are working perfect since 2 months. Also with shaking the cables it´s working with normal nema 17 but not with the hemera. Try to replace the hemera today!
                                            thanks

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