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    • A Former User?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      i did mean using fusion with a post processfor for linuxcnc as relvant-ish to the topic at hand

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      • arhiundefined
        arhi @A Former User
        last edited by

        @bearer said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

        i did mean using fusion with a post processfor for linuxcnc as relvant-ish to the topic at hand

        ah, it never generated g2/g3 for me with linuxcnc postprocessor nor with grbl postprocessor

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        • littlehobbyshopundefined
          littlehobbyshop @Red Sand Robot
          last edited by littlehobbyshop

          @Red-Sand-Robot Yes, I was playing with this last night. I did exactly that and copied the relevant code blocks from the Prusa post but couldn't get it working yet. It would generate gcode right up to where an arc would be then error.
          They said in the release that it's limited to Prusa and Ultimaker machines for now so am trying workarounds for that but not cracked it just yet.
          Will update soon as I can get it working.

          BLV MGN Cube w/Hemera, K8200, Sunlu S8

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          • Red Sand Robotundefined
            Red Sand Robot @littlehobbyshop
            last edited by Red Sand Robot

            @littlehobbyshop
            I think I got it to work. There are two lines of sneaky variables that I missed the first time I copied the blocks over, had to do with the var iOutput = createReferenceVariable({prefix:"I", force:true}, xyzFormat); // circular output1 and
            var jOutput = createReferenceVariable({prefix:"J", force:true}, xyzFormat); // circular output variables being missing in my initial modification to your post.

            For whatever reason, it is not working with a custom print profile, but I changed over to the stock "ABS 1.75mm" print profile and it was generating G3 commands for a flat donut shape.

            unofficial rrf machine with arc smoothing.cps

            1032.gcode

            I think modifying the stock print profiles in certain ways may affect the curve fitting.

            @bot I agree, fitting after the fact is not optimal but it is a step in the right direction. Probably leverage existing code from their CAM workspace to make it work.

            almost an engineer

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            • littlehobbyshopundefined
              littlehobbyshop @Red Sand Robot
              last edited by

              @Red-Sand-Robot Sneaky, I'll take a closer look this evening and publish an update on Github. Will probably start a new thread on here too, the old one got a little buried.

              BLV MGN Cube w/Hemera, K8200, Sunlu S8

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              • theruttmeisterundefined
                theruttmeister @Red Sand Robot
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                @Red-Sand-Robot said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                @bot I agree, fitting after the fact is not optimal but it is a step in the right direction. Probably leverage existing code from their CAM workspace to make it work.

                I think they are probably trying to get firmware support for G2/3 to be more widespread before they go through the trouble of writing a new slicer that can actually take STEP or even native geometery from Fusion.

                Isolate, substitute, verify.

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
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                  slightly OT

                  Effective October 1, 2020, functionality in Fusion 360 for personal use will be limited, and you’ll no longer have access to the following:

                  • Probing, 3 + 2-axis milling (tool orientation), multi-axis milling, rapid moves, automatic tool changes

                  • Multi-sheets, smart templates, output options for drawings (print only).

                  • Download options from public share links

                  • Cloud rendering

                  • Export options including F3Z, DWG, DXF, IGES, SAT, and STEP

                  • Simulation and generative design

                  • Unlimited active and editable Fusion 360 documents (10 doc limit).

                  • Fusion 360 extensions

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                  • jwalker55undefined
                    jwalker55 @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @bearer said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                    slightly OT

                    Effective October 1, 2020, functionality in Fusion 360 for personal use will be limited, and you’ll no longer have access to the following:

                    • Probing, 3 + 2-axis milling (tool orientation), multi-axis milling, rapid moves, automatic tool changes

                    • Multi-sheets, smart templates, output options for drawings (print only).

                    • Download options from public share links

                    • Cloud rendering

                    • Export options including F3Z, DWG, DXF, IGES, SAT, and STEP

                    • Simulation and generative design

                    • Unlimited active and editable Fusion 360 documents (10 doc limit).

                    • Fusion 360 extensions

                    Wow, can't even export to STEP. I guess it might be the beginning of goodbye to Fusion 360 for me.

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User
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                      it certainly limits the usability of the slicer without exporting step files for sharing; shame.

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                      • arhiundefined
                        arhi @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @bearer said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                        Export options including F3Z, DWG, DXF, IGES, SAT, and STEP

                        looks like investing into freeCAD was not a bad move

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk
                          last edited by

                          If you sign up to the EAA https://www.eaa.org/ (for $40 a year or $36 recurring) you can get SOLIDWORKS student.

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User @arhi
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                            @arhi said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                            freeCAD

                            has cam? https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Path_Workbench ... hold my beer, I'm going in!

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                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User @jay_s_uk
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                              @jay_s_uk said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                              If you sign up to the EAA https://www.eaa.org/ (for $40 a year or $36 recurring) you can get SOLIDWORKS student.

                              thats pretty fly 😄

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                              • Red Sand Robotundefined
                                Red Sand Robot @A Former User
                                last edited by Red Sand Robot

                                @bearer Screenshot 2020-09-16 105658.png

                                There is no mention of changing import options, so you could conceivably still import .step or.iges files. Also, Fusion project files can still be exported, so a workaround for storage of only 10 projects could be exporting the project and archiving it on a local storage solution and then re-uploading it when needed. Not sure what archived/active means, I don't see the difference between continually 'archiving' and then making a document 'active' unless the process is annoying enough to make it an unwanted step in the modeling workflow.

                                I think these changes were brought about from people abusing the personal license for commercial uses. Even then, a yearly subscription for Fusion 360 is only around USD $500, which is a lot cheaper than the major CAD/CAM players (Solidworks, Inventor, Solidedge, etc). (Yes, cheaper is relative, five hundred dollars isn't an insignificant amount of money)

                                almost an engineer

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                                • botundefined
                                  bot @Red Sand Robot
                                  last edited by bot

                                  @Red-Sand-Robot They already removed importing of "professional" cad formats last year or early this year. So, no more STEP, IGES or SLDPRT/ASM for free users.

                                  However, if a hobbyist needs to have a part made (one of the main reasons for needing a STEP export), they could send the fusion file to the company who likely has access to fusion and can convert it/use the file as needed. Though, perhaps that would pose a problem for the vendor using a "hobbyist" file on their commercial licence? Not sure how that would work I will ask around the fusion groups.

                                  @Red-Sand-Robot said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                                  [...] Not sure what archived/active means, I don't see the difference between continually 'archiving' and then making a document 'active' unless the process is annoying enough to make it an unwanted step in the modeling workflow.

                                  [...]

                                  If you're doing "distributed design," where each part has its own "design" file, the 10 active design limit would limit you in making an assembly. However, that's easy to workaround because that's not even how Fusion is "meant" to be used. It seems almost like training tool of sorts -- force the hobbyists to learn the Fusion methodology (versus the SolidWorks way of distributed assemblies/designs).

                                  So, other than that, yeah, it will be a juggling act of archiving and re-activating designs to work on. Maybe they'll have a limit to the number of times you can change the state of a design per day or the like.

                                  *not actually a robot

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                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User
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                                    If people felt they couldn't afford it before, its not very likely to change October 1st, regardless of use case; and if it doesn't change ... meh.

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @A Former User
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                                      Well, that's a kick in the teeth. I started with Onshape, but they did the same thing and made the personal/free version virtually unusable. Moved to Fusion 360, but was sceptical that they'd do the same... and they have. Back to OpenSCAD, and, I guess, FreeCAD.

                                      Ian

                                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        In my case paying for Fusion 360 isn't too offensive to me. I've grown to like it a lot and have enough time and effort invested into it that. It's a good piece of software and I don't mind paying for that. I can see how that would be unpopular, but it was free because it was basically an open beta that saw a lot of active development and improvement. Now that it's pretty fully featured it's time to turn the screws and recoup some investment.

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                        • droftartsundefined
                                          droftarts administrators
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                                          This is the blog post about the changes: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/blog/changes-to-fusion-360-for-personal-use/
                                          The comments are... emotional!

                                          Ian

                                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                          • Red Sand Robotundefined
                                            Red Sand Robot @bot
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                                            @bot said in Fusion 360 FFF Slicer: G2/G3 Generation Now in Preview:

                                            They already removed importing of "professional" cad formats last year or early this year. So, no more STEP, IGES or SLDPRT/ASM for free users.

                                            Actually, STEP/IGES are still allowed.

                                            https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/pricing?_ga=2.5665779.1578081928.1600206184-2086964182.1571363456

                                            Interestingly enough, apparently you can still export to an Inventor part/assembly file, but not import! Very odd.

                                            almost an engineer

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