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    • thor3kundefined
      thor3k
      last edited by

      I forgot the other option, Piezo on bed. Here I think we have 2 roads:

      Piezo under the bed (but i'm scared when i need to probe for ABS (bed @90/100°C, i think piezo suffer at that temperature.

      Piezo under the bed support... but how many and where on ultrabase shape?

      suggestions?

      thanks again guys

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        Piezo in the print head mounting or on the effector may be another possibility.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
          last edited by

          Smart effector is also an elegant solution, but with the dual extruder you pretty much have to eliminate effector tilt and in that case bltouch should also work reasonably well?

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          • zaptaundefined
            zapta @A Former User
            last edited by zapta

            @bearer said in Predator Project - The Mjolnir -:

            but with the dual extruder you pretty much have to eliminate effector tilt

            My experience with dual nozzles is that it's very difficult to prevent one from interfering with the printing by the other.

            I wonder if the 'tiltability' of delta printers can be used to address it. E.g. on tool change, tilting the non active nozzle up such that it is not interfering with piezo measurement or printing by the other nozzle.

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            • thor3kundefined
              thor3k
              last edited by

              Hi Everybody, thank you for the suggestions and sharing your experiences.

              what I learned is to say bye bye to my BLtouch (i will recycle it on my ender 3 😬 )

              I designed new bed support to place piezo (Precision piezo kit Ø20mm):

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              ...and problably i will move to a new print head solution to prevent tilt issues:

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              i will design a special cooler to proceed with my liquid cooling idea and create a compact effector...

              hope you like it and i'm on the right way now.. 😉 thanks guys!

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              • zaptaundefined
                zapta
                last edited by zapta

                I am waiting for the day when our 3D printers will be as pretty as their CAD renderings.

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                • thor3kundefined
                  thor3k
                  last edited by

                  here we go....!

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                  instead of what drawed before, I made (due to supplier wrong shipment) the Ø27 piezo support, probably more sensitive 😉

                  here a short preview,
                  https://youtu.be/zSb38aC-XgE

                  looks good:

                  g32.jpg

                  But unfortunatelly I don't understand this mesh... really don't...
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                  I will check again geometry and road lenght with a caliber...

                  wait for your comments

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @thor3k
                    last edited by

                    @thor3k, that height map with ridges at one end of the X direction turning into valleys at the other end is a beautiful example of the effects of backlash in the joints of a delta printer.

                    Try lubricating the joints.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • thor3kundefined
                      thor3k
                      last edited by

                      Thank you dc42, I thought it depend of bad geometries.. is something I saw on first tests, I remember (se my first post) it goes better when I goes back from magnetic joints to the original ball eye rod joints..

                      I will check the lubrification on my mag balls...

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Btw sticktion in the carriage or belts too loose would also cause that pattern in the height map.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • veryevilundefined
                          veryevil
                          last edited by

                          Hi, how's this project going? I'm interested in the piezo mounts. Does the heated bed float on them or is it screwed down? Do you have a place you are putting the files as I would really like something similar for mine.

                          Thanks

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                          • sebxtremeundefined
                            sebxtreme @thor3k
                            last edited by

                            @thor3k hi , I would make this mod too on my predator , can you share the stl file for mount the piezo Undermath ?

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                            • bbergerundefined
                              bberger @thor3k
                              last edited by

                              @thor3k I'd be interested in the mounts - would you mind sharing them?

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