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    • arhiundefined
      arhi @chop
      last edited by

      @chop that is nicely repeatable, you have it working good I'd say 🙂

      you need to change your G31, if you are printing in the air you need to lower the value more into negative... zo try Z-0.1 or Z-0.15 or even more Z-0.2 till you get satisfying first layer. I never seen it need more then -0.15 for ppiezo but .. if I didn't see it, it does not mean it does not exist 😄

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      • arhiundefined
        arhi
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        also - did you probe with heated nozzle?! if you are not probing with nozzle and bed at printing temperature that can account for a wrong (too high) required offset

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        • chopundefined
          chop @arhi
          last edited by

          @arhi i prob @ 80 on bed and 130 on nozzle

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          • arhiundefined
            arhi @chop
            last edited by

            @chop those temps should be ok, just increase the offset a bit (absolute increase, the value need to go more in the negative)

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            • chopundefined
              chop @arhi
              last edited by

              @arhi if my bed isnt good levelt. i have to make a grid? with my current z0? and the orion knows where the bes is + or -? or i need g29 s1?

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              • chopundefined
                chop @chop
                last edited by chop

                alt text

                What thats mean?

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                • arhiundefined
                  arhi
                  last edited by

                  means that your config is not ok

                  you need to first setup G31 with proper offset
                  then you need to home
                  then you need to G29

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                  • chopundefined
                    chop @arhi
                    last edited by

                    @arhi what is z=0 Datum?

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                    • arhiundefined
                      arhi @chop
                      last edited by arhi

                      @chop it compares the middle height of probed points with homed Z, the error is over 1.3mm .. this usually happens when you home, have wrong offset change offset and then do G29 without homing again ... I suggest you change config, reset board, home, g29, again change config, reset board, home, g29 ... until you are happy ... you can run g29 multiple times but any time you change config / execute G31 you reboot board, home, then g29

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        That z datum error message usually means you've loaded a heightmap before you've used G30 to set Z0 first. Or you've used an endstop to set z0 rather than the probe.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

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                        • chopundefined
                          chop @Phaedrux
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                          @Phaedrux i User the probe as endstop.

                          Is this Configuration correct? :

                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                          M208 X300 Y300 Z250 S0 ; set axis maxima

                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                          M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                          M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P5 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F300 T15000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.05 P250 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 X5:300 Y5:300 S20 ; define mesh grid

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by Phaedrux

                            That looks fine, but you must be using G30 in your homeall.g. Also make sure you do NOT have G29 S1 in your config.g

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                            • chopundefined
                              chop @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux

                              homeall.g
                              ; called to home all axes
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sat Oct 17 2020 17:51:59 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)
                              G91 ; relative positioning
                              G1 H2 Z5 F15000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                              G1 H1 X-305 Y-300 F6000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
                              G1 H1 X-305 ; home X axis
                              G1 H1 Y-300 ; home Y axis
                              G1 X5 Y5 F15000 ; go back a few mm
                              G1 H1 X-305 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                              G1 H1 Y-300 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
                              G90 ; absolute positioning
                              G1 X5 Y5 F15000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
                              G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                              ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                              ;G91 ; relative positioning
                              ;G1 Z5 F250 ; lift Z relative to current position
                              ;G90 ; absolute positioning

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                That looks correct. Now just make sure you have homed the z axis with G28 before creating a heightmap with G29 and the datum error message should go away.

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                                • chopundefined
                                  chop @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux @arhi @engikeneer

                                  So .. everything works now and it prints well. Thank you all. Now my last question, as I am new to the RRF. How do I start a print now so that a macro is run, the orion tests the bed and then it prints? I don't know which one. g that's coming. or does it have to be in the slicer start g code? if so, how can I tell that he should use a macro?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @chop
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                                    @chop said in Piezo Orion + RRF 3.... Problems:

                                    How do I start a print now so that a macro is run, the orion tests the bed and then it prints? I don't know which one. g that's coming. or does it have to be in the slicer start g code? if so, how can I tell that he should use a macro?

                                    I'm not really sure what you're asking.

                                    But usually the slicer start gcode would contain at least a T0 to select the first tool, G28 to home all axis, and a G29 S1 to load the mesh. The slicer would also add the bed and hotend temps.

                                    If you wanted to add something to run before any of that, you can add those commands to start.g in the /sys folder which gets run automatically before the sliced gcode file.

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                                    • chopundefined
                                      chop @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by chop

                                      @Phaedrux

                                      i try to explain

                                      i want to add,heat to bed and hotend to X celsius(shpuld be print temp), do a makro, prob the bed, start the print.

                                      the printer should do this one ervery print. where i have to add this commands?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        The slicer should be adding the temp commands that you set in the slicer settings.

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                                        • arhiundefined
                                          arhi @chop
                                          last edited by

                                          @chop here is how I do it.

                                          1. in slicer put this:

                                          for start script:

                                          M98 P"print_start.g"
                                          

                                          for ending script:

                                          M104 S0 ; turn off extruder
                                          M140 S0 ; turn off bed
                                          M106 S0 ; turn off fan
                                          M98 P"print_stop.g"
                                          
                                          1. then make "print_start.g" and "print_stop.g" scripts to put whatever you want in them... for e.g. I have

                                          print_start.g

                                          ; no volumetric extrusion
                                          M200 D0
                                          
                                          ; relative extruder distance
                                          M83
                                          
                                          ; do not home if already homed
                                          if !move.axes[0].homed || !move.axes[1].homed || !move.axes[2].homed
                                            G28
                                          
                                          ; do the wipe 
                                          M98 P"wipe.g"
                                          
                                          ; use MESH compensation
                                          G29S1
                                          
                                          ; all currents to 100%
                                          M913 X100 Y100 Z100 
                                          
                                          ; load default jerk, speed and acceleration values
                                          M98 P"cfg_jerkspeedaccel.g"
                                          
                                          ; reset baby steps
                                          M290 R0 S0
                                          
                                          ; reset speed overrides
                                          M221 S100
                                          M220 S100 
                                          
                                          ; Dynamic Acceleration Adjustment
                                          ; M593 Fxxx
                                          
                                          ; Pressure Advance
                                          ; M572 D0 S0.042
                                          M572 D0 S0.03
                                          
                                          ;M118P0S"MESSAGE: PRINT STARTED"
                                          

                                          and my print_stop.g

                                          M104 S0 ; turn off extruder
                                          M140 S0 ; turn off bed
                                          M106 S0 ; turn off fan
                                          
                                          M913 X20 Y20 Z25
                                          G91
                                          G0Z10
                                          G90
                                          M913 X100 Y100 Z100
                                          
                                          M98 P"wipe.g"
                                          
                                          ;M118P0S"MESSAGE: PRINT FINISHED"
                                          

                                          now those are mine, you adapt to what you want start/stop to do

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                                          • arhiundefined
                                            arhi
                                            last edited by

                                            note that slicer will heat up the bed and the nozzle before it executes the "start script"

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