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    • sozkanundefined
      sozkan @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

      @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2-beta1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later

      I would say in your current situation of commissioning and tuning you should stick with firmware 3.1.1

      Upload this zip file as is, don't extract it, to the system tab in the web interface.

      https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.1.1/Duet2and3Firmware-3.1.1.zip

      @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

      Error: Driver 6 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation
      Driver 7 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation
      Driver 8 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation
      Driver 5 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation

      M350 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 I1

      I think you're going to need to specify a microstepping value. 0 won't work. Try 1.

      I will definitely try your advice soon. I was formating file structure, I can't connect web interface anymore now. I have backed up fully the SD card. Reverted back but still not connecting.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        Your SD card needs a file structure like this: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/SD_Card#Section_Creating_the_file_structure

        The web interface files need be placed in the /www folder and come from here: https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.1.1/DuetWebControl-SD-3.1.1.zip

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        • sozkanundefined
          sozkan @sozkan
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          @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

          @Phaedrux said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

          @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2-beta1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later

          I would say in your current situation of commissioning and tuning you should stick with firmware 3.1.1

          Upload this zip file as is, don't extract it, to the system tab in the web interface.

          https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.1.1/Duet2and3Firmware-3.1.1.zip

          @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

          Error: Driver 6 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation
          Driver 7 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation
          Driver 8 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation
          Driver 5 does not support x0 microstepping with interpolation

          M350 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 I1

          I think you're going to need to specify a microstepping value. 0 won't work. Try 1.

          I will definitely try your advice soon. I was formating file structure, I can't connect web interface anymore now. I have backed up fully the SD card. Reverted back but still not connecting.

          I normally install the beta update using the web interface. The CSS and www folders appeared in the sys folder after that.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @sozkan
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            @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

            I normally install the beta update using the web interface. The CSS and www folders appeared in the sys folder after that.

            Did you upload the full zip file without extracting it first?

            You must not extract the zip file.

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            • sozkanundefined
              sozkan @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

              @sozkan said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

              I normally install the beta update using the web interface. The CSS and www folders appeared in the sys folder after that.

              Did you upload the full zip file without extracting it first?

              You must not extract the zip file.

              yes I did in the past with zip in beta version upgrade. But this case I cannot connect web interface. Panedue console says it connected to the IP : 192.168.1.200 but on my hotspot network it shows unknow IP connection. I have uploaded the firmware files in the SD card that you sent me now and reinstall firmware using the PaneDue interface with "M997 S0 to install the firmware" and "M997 S1 to install the WiFi module firmware" so successfully updated. After I send M115 to confirm the new firmware version it is still beta version remain and not connected.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                It sounds like your /www folder may be missing still?

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                • sozkanundefined
                  sozkan @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

                  It sounds like your /www folder may be missing still?

                  I actually revert the backup which is previously connecting with no issue.
                  This problem just appeared. I have tried to connect different SSID name, I could not save into controller gives error on the saving list. It seems like the controller relying on "config.json" keep connecting old parameters. By the way, I have reinstalled back beta firmware just to see if it will connect.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    config.json is just used by the online config tool

                    Can you post a photo of what your SD card file structure looks like now?

                    Since you have a PanelDue it may be a good idea to add some macros to your SD card macros folder to aid in diagnostics.

                    https://github.com/Duet3D/RRF-machine-config-files/tree/master/DBotCoreXY/x0r-wifi-RRF3/macros/Diagnostics

                    At the bottom of that list are 3 wifi macros which you can customize with your SSID name to make clearing and adding the wifi network easy from the paneldue.

                    Sending M997 S1 should reflash the wifi server firmware in case something went wrong on the last update.

                    If you send M122 from a USB connection you can see the wifi server status at the end. The response is too large for the PanelDue to display.

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                    • sozkanundefined
                      sozkan @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

                      config.json is just used by the online config tool

                      Can you post a photo of what your SD card file structure looks like now?

                      Since you have a PanelDue it may be a good idea to add some macros to your SD card macros folder to aid in diagnostics.

                      https://github.com/Duet3D/RRF-machine-config-files/tree/master/DBotCoreXY/x0r-wifi-RRF3/macros/Diagnostics

                      At the bottom of that list are 3 wifi macros which you can customize with your SSID name to make clearing and adding the wifi network easy from the paneldue.

                      Sending M997 S1 should reflash the wifi server firmware in case something went wrong on the last update.

                      If you send M122 from a USB connection you can see the wifi server status at the end. The response is too large for the PanelDue to display.

                      Thanks. Macros help to reset the wifi module. I am in DWC now finally.

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                      • sozkanundefined
                        sozkan @Phaedrux
                        last edited by sozkan

                        @Phaedrux !DuetSysStr.png
                        I have added files on the sys folder before downgrade to the stable 3.11 version. I will update using the web interface.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          I'm a little confused.

                          Are you on 3.2 beta still, or 3.1.1?

                          I think maybe some other files may be missing.

                          You could try updating with 3.0 first, and then 3.1.1

                          https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.0/Duet2and3Firmware-3.0.zip

                          https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.1.1/Duet2and3Firmware-3.1.1.zip

                          Remember to upload the entire intact zip file to the system tab. Don't extract.

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                          • sozkanundefined
                            sozkan @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux I have actually Upgraded to 3.0 at first. later 3.11 and latest beta. Presently I have downgraded to 3.1.1 using DWC .

                            I have checked your previous recommendation Micro Stepping "1" it is still remain horrible sound ;

                            ; Drives
                            M569 P5 S0 R0 T3:3:5:0         ; Extruder drive 0 goes Forward
                            M569 P6 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; X:A drive 1 goes Forward
                            M569 P7 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; Y:B drive 2 goes Forward
                            M569 P8 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; Z:C physical drive 3 goes Forward
                            
                            M584 X6 Y7 Z8 E5                                  			 ; set drive mapping
                            M350 X1 Y1 Z1 E1 I1                                ; configure microstepping without interpolation
                            
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                            • sozkanundefined
                              sozkan
                              last edited by sozkan

                              Hi again.

                              It was seemed resolved. But cracking sound revealed again on different homing variations.

                              if one of the motors for each other and if two of the three-axis reaches the limit switches, the last motor starts on a noisy signal and can't complete the move distance. During the home Cracking noisy sound. The failing reason seems running less than the specified home distance. But the distance is correct.
                              Please see the video on this issue:
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GGh0wQdLYQ

                              I believe the hardware is fine. Because once it is successfully homed, working calibrated and smooth.

                              if once fails on homing, and If I move the motors manually away from limit switches, homing again smooth. the somehow nosy signal appears if two limits switch on.

                              I also doubted if limit switches contact cause power loss? Should I put a resistor in series to try?

                              it is currently on the config file.

                              ; Drives
                              M569 P5 S0 R0 T3:3:5:0      ; Extruder drive 0 goes Forward
                              M569 P2 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; X:A drive 1 goes Forward
                              M569 P3 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; Y:B drive 2 goes Forward
                              M569 P4 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; Z:C physical drive 3 goes Forward
                              
                              M584 X6 Y7 Z8 E5                                   ; set drive mapping
                              M350 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 I0                                ; configure microstepping without interpolation
                              

                              It says Y-axis not homed which is connected on E4 for on the breakout board. But during the Delta move, Y-axis toward the Z-axis direction, and Z motor moves more.

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                              • sozkanundefined
                                sozkan @sozkan
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                                @sozkan By the way my Home Gcode

                                homedelta.g :

                                ; homedelta.g
                                ; called to home all towers on a delta printer
                                ;
                                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sun Sep 27 2020 20:52:39 GMT+0200 (Central European Summer Time)
                                G91                         ; relative positioning
                                ;*** Slow homing has been configured. Change F90 to F900 below when your configuration is working
                                G1 H1 X1805 Y1805 Z1805 F800 ; move all towers to the high end stopping at the endstops (first pass)
                                G1 H2 X-10 Y-10 Z-10 F800      ; go down a few mm
                                ;*** Slow homing has been configured. Change F90 to F360 below when your configuration is working
                                G1 H1 X10 Y10 Z10 F800      ; move all towers up once more (second pass)
                                G1 Z-15 F1200                ; move down a few mm so that the nozzle can be centred
                                G90                         ; absolute positioning
                                G1 X0 Y0 F1000              ; move X+Y to the centre
                                
                                
                                
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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  Are you sure the endstop for each tower actually corresponds to that tower at the board connection and firmware definition?

                                  d58d6c78-2e35-41d9-80e8-1a16ceb4824c-image.png

                                  https://reprap.org/wiki/Delta_geometry#Delta_columns_and_axis_names

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                                  • sozkanundefined
                                    sozkan @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by sozkan

                                    @Phaedrux said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

                                    Are you sure the endstop for each tower actually corresponds to that tower at the board connection and firmware definition?

                                    https://reprap.org/wiki/Delta_geometry#Delta_columns_and_axis_names

                                    Yes exactly like this. Then, according to the documentation my setup correct, with no problems with the axis.

                                    On every home, until the first and second end stops smooth move, then, the last one left noisy and slow down.

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @sozkan
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                                      @sozkan this is the same issue you had when you didn't use P5, 6, 7 and 8 as instructed.
                                      As you've indicated you've gone back to using the wrong numbers, of course your homing won't work correctly.
                                      Us the correct motor P numbers otherwise we're never going to be able to help you

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • sozkanundefined
                                        sozkan @jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by sozkan

                                        @jay_s_uk said in Giant Delta printer Slow Homing issue.:

                                        @sozkan this is the same issue you had when you didn't use P5, 6, 7 and 8 as instructed.
                                        As you've indicated you've gone back to using the wrong numbers, of course your homing won't work correctly.
                                        Us the correct motor P numbers otherwise we're never going to be able to help you

                                        Thanks for your concern, but if you have seen above the P5, 6, 7 and 8 I have tried several times. It is in my mind always. The correct numbers P5, 6, 7 and 8. But I tried today as well. I did not work!
                                        After setting up this recommend number, horrible sound even after the home. and moves are not calibrated. I don`t know why G91 moves even did not work correctly. I can make a video tomorrow about what exactly the difference.

                                        The present setting is are accidentally working fine but after home smoothly. I am not fun of numbers. If the recommended numbers works, Why I wouldn't?

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by dc42

                                          Please post the exact M569 command you used with P5, P6, P7 and P8.

                                          The "horrible noise" you mentioned might be caused by the motors recognising the commands but trying to move too fast, because of an error in the steps/mm setting, or the microstepping setting you are using on the external driver.

                                          What switch settings are you using on those drivers?

                                          Have you tested the motors individually as described at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareDeltaPrinter#Section_Testing_the_motors_and_endstops_individually ?

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • sozkanundefined
                                            sozkan @dc42
                                            last edited by sozkan

                                            @dc42
                                            These are the present settings working smoothly after home.

                                            ; Drives
                                            M569 P5 S0 R0 T3:3:5:0                                       ; Extruder drive 0 goes Forward
                                            M569 P2 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; X:A drive 1 goes Forward
                                            M569 P3 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; Y:B drive 2 goes Forward
                                            M569 P4 S1 R0 T2.5:2.5:6:6  ; Z:C physical drive 3 goes Forward
                                            
                                            M584 X6 Y7 Z8 E5                                  			 ; set drive mapping
                                            M350 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 I0                                ; configure microstepping without interpolation
                                            
                                            M92 X114.29 Y114.29 Z114.29 E274.00                   ; set steps per mm (400/140) * 40 = 114.2857 ;; 400 step per rev ;; 140 mm one rev pulley ;;1:40 ratio gearbox 
                                            
                                            

                                            I have tested individual axis as well both with these settings and another (Correct) one as well.
                                            However, I will do another youtube video to show you how it behaves.

                                            Steps / mm value is no different than earlier. Because I have added a locked 1:40 gearbox to keep axis from freefall.

                                            Switch settings on driver 400 pulse/revolution.

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