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    • MaracMBundefined
      MaracMB @Phaedrux
      last edited by MaracMB

      @Phaedrux exactly.
      I think it’s latency as i interpret dc42’s explanation...
      And i thought off adding 5th and 6th carriage. Silly me.

      @dc42 would it help if i put all X carriages on one board and extruders on the other?

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      • MaracMBundefined
        MaracMB @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux that i can do in the morning (machine in the cave...)
        It’s powered from a 350w meanwell, AC bed. The VIN from PSU is 1.5mm i guess.. stock. And “the bridge” between the Duet and Duex is with 2.5mm2 high grade copper wires. Ferulle crimped.

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        • MaracMBundefined
          MaracMB @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux , @dc42 
          I have rewired.
          Put all the X motors and Y on the Duet board, and Duex now holds both Z motors and all E motors.

          I have rewired the VIN. Just in case.

          I have reset the configs accordingly.

          State of art:
          Machine seems to home the X carriages reliably now, same goes for Y
          But now it fails on almost every or every second Z homing.
          If i home Z, it will probably home correct. If i go and commit home all, it will most definetly not home Z axes correctly.

          Machine needs independant Z motors to level the X gantries every single time, or this is just a very, very, very large paperweight.

          As suggested by @engikeneer, i have joint the Z axes. Is this now a problem?

          homez.g :

          G91               		; relative positioning
          G1 H2 Z5 F600
          G1 Z-405 F900 H1
          G1 Z2 F900 H2
          G1 Z-5 F360 H1 
          G1 Z3 F900				; lift both Zs to 3
          G90					; absolute positioning
          

          homeall.g

          G91                     	; relative positioning
          G1 Z2 F360 H2           	; lift Z relative to current position
          G1 X-400 Y-450 U400 V-400 W400 F3600 H1	; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
          G1 X5 Y5 U-5 V5 W-5 F3600 H2         	; go back a 5 mm
          G1 Y-10 X-10 U10 V-10 W10 F360 H1 			; second pass
          M98 Phomez.g			; call homing script for Z axes
          G90
          

          Mapping Z

          M584 X0 Y2 Z5:6 U1 V3 W4
          

          Endstops for Z:

          M574 Z1 S1 P"!duex.e2stop+!duex.e3stop" 
          

          I have set the voltages for the Z motors as:

          M906 X950 Y1050 Z950:950 U950 V950 W950 I30
          

          Is this ok? not sure how else i can do it if two motors, same axis, two endstops...

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          • MaracMBundefined
            MaracMB @Phaedrux
            last edited by MaracMB

            @Phaedrux
            rats nest:
            https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XQcPBchHubw7k9XG6YlcQA89s1ovAu4-/view?usp=sharing

            new VIN
            https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PnsclKfqTyVa3TaVUyYYShSjggaT2_Y3/view?usp=sharing

            the IDE is already as short as possible. in given circumstances.

            is this just too much for Duet and will i have to use some other platform?

            if you notice that Duex is not as it should be, it's because i fried two of them already and i am NOT frying another original until this is done. Money does not grow on trees. I am a landscape architect, i would know such tree... 😉

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            • MaracMBundefined
              MaracMB @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42

              even with split Z axes, it fails.

              G91               		; relative positioning
              G1 H2 Z5 F600
              M584 Z5 A6 P7				;split
              G1 Z-405 A-405 F900 H1
              M584 Z5:6 P6
              G1 Z3 F900				; lift both Zs to 3
              G90					; absolute positioning
              

              this is M122 after Z homing fails:

              M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2-beta2 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
              Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3SN-6J9F6-3SN6L-KUWVG
              Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (24 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 24028
              Dynamic ram: 103532 of which 64 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 560
              Never used ram: 2888
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,123) HEAT(blocked,294) DUEX(blocked,36) MAIN(running,451) IDLE(ready,19)
              Owned mutexes:
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:04:22 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2020-11-05 11:22, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 2880, slot 2
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
              Error status: 0x04
              MCU temperature: min 38.3, current 38.6, max 39.1
              Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.2, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              Driver 0: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 1: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 2: position 4800, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 5: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/178
              Driver 6: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/118
              Driver 7: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 8: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 9: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 10: position 0
              Driver 11: position 0
              Date/time: 2020-11-05 11:27:01
              Cache data hit count 412734709
              Slowest loop: 17.58ms; fastest: 0.19ms
              I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 1.3ms, write time 3.1ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 167, MaxWait: 251856ms
              Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
              === MainDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 6, completed moves: 6, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
              === AuxDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Movement lock held by null
              HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File is idle in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue is idle in state(s) 0
              LCD is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 201.99ms; fastest: 0.11ms
              Responder states: HTTP(2) HTTP(1) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
              HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

              • WiFi -
                Network state is active
                WiFi module is connected to access point
                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
                WiFi firmware version 1.24beta2-05b1
                WiFi MAC address 84:f3:eb:83:45:0d
                WiFi Vcc 3.43, reset reason Power up
                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23288
                WiFi IP address 192.168.0.125
                WiFi signal strength -44dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                Clock register 00002002
                Socket states: 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
                === DueX ===
                Read count 3, 1.85 reads/min
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              • MaracMBundefined
                MaracMB
                last edited by

                this is repeating on sending Home Z.
                Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.

                I will leave this here.
                https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bWrnUszf52sSI6WxNkiBHYnSRBgFj5J1/view?usp=sharing

                I hope you now understand what the problem is. It is the same problem from the start. Now i just isolated it to Z axes.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @MaracMB
                  last edited by

                  @MaracMB said in My quad carriage machine is failing on Tools. AGAIN.:

                  this is repeating on sending Home Z.
                  Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.

                  I will leave this here.
                  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bWrnUszf52sSI6WxNkiBHYnSRBgFj5J1/view?usp=sharing

                  I hope you now understand what the problem is. It is the same problem from the start. Now i just isolated it to Z axes.

                  Please explain WHAT fails, and post the config file you are using. Also your homing files if they have changed since you posted them before.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • MaracMBundefined
                    MaracMB @dc42
                    last edited by

                    @dc42 are you deliberately ignoring that the Z homing fails? Or are you just playing? I don't know, techically, what fails. It fails to home both leadscrews. motors grind. What does it look like when Z does not home right?
                    And sometimes it does home right. This is why i recorded a video. Because we seem not to undestand eachother.

                    Since you said:

                    *dc42 ADMINISTRATORS 4 Nov 2020, 16:11
                    Is it the U and/or W axes that failed to home? If so, it is just one of those, or both of them?

                    Those endstop switches are the ones connected to the DueX5 board. Keeping those switches up to date relies on I2C communications between the Duet and the DueX along with an interrupt. A M122 report taken when this happens will provide data on the status of the I2C interface.*

                    So I rewired, moved the X axes to Duet board and isolated the unrealiable homing to Z.

                    I have posted you the homing of Z just above. Do you want me to do it again? here you go:

                    G91               		; relative positioning
                    G1 H2 Z5 F600
                    M584 Z5 A6 P7				;split
                    G1 Z-405 A-405 F900 H1
                    M584 Z5:6 P6
                    G1 Z5 F900				; lift both Zs to 3
                    G90					; absolute positioning
                    

                    I have posted you M122 after Z homing fails, as you instructed.

                    Here is yet again, the config.

                    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                    ; by MaracMB
                    ; General preferences
                    G90  							; send absolute coordinates...
                    M83  							; relative extruder moves
                    M550 P"MarX-Quad"  				; set printer name
                    
                    ; Network
                    M552 S1  						; enable network
                    M586 P0 S1  					; enable HTTP
                    M586 P1 S0  					; disable FTP
                    M586 P2 S0  					; disable Telnet
                    
                    ; Drives
                    M569 P0 S0  					; physical drive 0 X goes backwards - X0
                    M569 P1 S1  					; physical drive 1 Y goes forwards - X1
                    M569 P2 S1  					; physical drive 2 Z goes forwards - Y
                    M569 P3 S1  					; Physical drive 3 E0 goes forwards - X2
                    M569 P4 S1  					; Physical drive 4 E1 goes forwards - X3
                    
                    M569 P5 S1  					; Physical drive 5 E2 goes forwards - Z1
                    M569 P6 S1  					; Physical drive 6 E3 goes forwards - Z2
                    
                    M569 P7 S0  					; physical drive 7 E4 goes backwards - e1
                    M569 P8 S0  					; physical drive 8 E5 goes backwards - e2
                    M569 P9 S0  					; physical drive 9 E6 goes backwards - e3
                    M569 P10 S0  					; physical drive 10 Ext1 goes backwards - e4
                    
                    ;Mapping drives
                    M584 X0 Y2 Z5 U1 V3 W4 A6 P6	; Extruder mapping
                    M584 E7:8:9:10 					; Extruder mapping
                    
                    M350 X32 Y32 Z32 U32 V32 W32 A32 I1 ; Configure microstepping movement
                    M350 E16:16:16:16 I0 			; Configure microstepping extruders
                    
                    ; Motion parameters
                    M92 X160 Y160 Z1600 U160 V160 W160 A1600  		; Set steps per mm motion
                    M92 E396:396:396:396 							; Set steps per mm extruders
                    
                    M566 X420 Y420 Z15 U420 V420 W420 A25  		; set maximum instantaneous speed changes motion (mm/min)
                    M566 E320:320:320:320 							; set maximum instantaneous speed changes extruders(mm/min)
                    
                    M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1200 U12000 V12000 W12000 A1200 ; set maximum speeds motion (mm/min)
                    M203 E7200:7200:7200:7200           				; set maximum speeds extruders(mm/min)
                    
                    M201 X880 Y880 Z240 U880 V880 W880 A240					; set accelerations motion (mm/s^2)
                    M201 E7200:7200:7200:7200                  		; set accelerations extruders (mm/s^2)
                    
                    M906 X950 Y1050 Z950 U950 V950 W950 A950 I30 				; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent motion
                    M906 E950:950:950:950 I30 									; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent extruders
                    
                    M84 S60 													; idle time
                    
                    ; Axis Limits
                    M208 X-170 Y-165 Z0 U-112 V-157 W-112 A0 S1 					; Set axies minimas
                    M208 X115 Y155 Z350 U168 V112 W158 A350 S0 						; Set axies maximas
                    
                    ; Endstops
                    M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" 			; configure active-low endstop for low end
                    M574 Y1 S1 P"!zstop" 			; configure active-low endstop for low end
                    M574 Z1 S1 P"!duex.e2stop" 		; configure active-low endstop for low end
                    M574 U2 S1 P"!ystop" 			; configure active-low endstop for high end
                    M574 V1 S1 P"!e0stop" 			; configure active-low endstop for low end
                    M574 W2 S1 P"!e1stop" 			; configure active-low endstop for high end
                    M574 A1 S1 P"!duex.e3stop" 		; configure active-low endstop for low end
                    
                    ; Z-Probe
                    ;M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 							; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                    ;M557 X-125:125 Y-125:125 S125 	 				; define mesh grid
                    
                    ; Heaters and sensors
                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 	            ; configure sensor 0
                    M308 S1 P"duex.e2temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1
                    M308 S2 P"duex.e3temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 2
                    M308 S3 P"duex.e4temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3
                    M308 S4 P"duex.e5temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 4
                    
                    M308 S5 Y"mcu-temp" A"MCU" 				    				; Configure sensor for MCU
                    M308 S6 Y"drivers" A"DRIVERS" 								; configure sensor 6 as temperature warning and overheat flags on the TMC2660 on Duet
                    
                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                       ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                    M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                            ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                    M143 H0 S120                                                ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M140 H0                                                     ; map heated bed to heater 0
                    
                    M950 H1 C"duex.e2heat" T1                                   ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e3heat and map it to sensor 1
                    M143 H1 S300                                                ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                            ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                    
                    M950 H2 C"duex.e3heat" T2                                   ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e4heat and map it to sensor 2
                    M143 H2 S300                                                ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 300C
                    M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                            ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                    
                    M950 H3 C"duex.e4heat" T3                                   ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e5heat and map it to sensor 3
                    M143 H3 S300                                                ; set temperature limit for heater 3 to 300C
                    M307 H3 B0 S1.00                                            ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                    
                    M950 H4 C"duex.e5heat" T4                                   ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e6heat and map it to sensor 4
                    M143 H4 S300                                                ; set temperature limit for heater 4 to 300C
                    M307 H4 B0 S1.00                                            ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                    
                    ; Fans
                    M950 F0 C"duex.fan4" Q1000 		; create fan 1 on pin duex.fan4 and set its frequency TOOL FAN 0
                    M106 P0 S0 H-1 					; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off TOOL FAN 0
                    
                    M950 F1 C"duex.fan5" Q1000 		; create fan 2 on pin duex.fan5 and set its frequency TOOL FAN 1
                    M106 P1 S0 H-1 					; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off TOOL FAN 1
                    
                    M950 F2 C"duex.fan6" Q1000 		; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan6 and set its frequency TOOL FAN 2
                    M106 P2 S0 H-1 					; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off TOOL FAN 2
                    
                    M950 F3 C"duex.fan8" Q1000 		; create fan 4 on pin duex.fan8 and set its frequency TOOL FAN 3
                    M106 P3 S0 H-1 					; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned off TOOL FAN 3
                    
                    M950 F4 C"fan0" Q1000 			; create fan 5 on pin fan0 and set its frequency HOTEND FAN tool 0
                    M106 P4 S0 H1 T45 				; set fan 5 value. Thermostatic control is turned on HOTEND FAN tool 0
                    
                    M950 F5 C"fan1" Q1000 			; create fan 6 on pin fan1 and set its frequency HOTEND FAN tool 1
                    M106 P5 S0 H2 T45 				; set fan 6 value. Thermostatic control is turned on HOTEND FAN tool 1
                    
                    M950 F6 C"fan2" Q1000 			; create fan 7 on pin fan2 and set its frequency HOTEND FAN tool 2
                    M106 P6 S0 H3 T45 				; set fan 7 value. Thermostatic control is turned on HOTEND FAN tool 2
                    
                    M950 F7 C"duex.fan3" Q1000 		; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan3 and set its frequency HOTEND FAN tool 3
                    M106 P7 S0 H4 T45 				; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on HOTEND FAN tool 3
                    
                    ;Extra fan ports
                    ;external stepper - PWMed
                    M950 F8 C"duex.fan7" Q500 		; fan 8 on pin duex.fan7 EXTRA FAN
                    M106 P8 S0 H-1 C"extFan" 		; set fan 8 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    
                    ;LED strip
                    ;M950 F5 C"duex.pwm" 			; create port for LEDs on pin duex.fan8
                    ;M106 P5 S0 C"LIGHTS" 			; LED control
                    
                    ; Tools
                    M563 P0 X0 D0 H1 F0 			; define tool 0
                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 V0 W0 		; set tool 0 axis offsets
                    G10 P0 R0 S0 					; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    M563 P1 X3 D1 H2 F1 			; define tool 1, ports X axis to U
                    G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 U0.9 V0 W0		; set tool 1 axis offsets
                    G10 P1 R0 S0 					; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    M563 P2 X4 D2 H3 F2 			; define tool 3, ports X axis to A
                    G10 P2 X0 Y161.85 Z0 U0 V0.80 W0 ; set tool 2 axis offsets
                    G10 P2 R0 S0 					; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    M563 P3 X5 D3 H4 F3 			; define tool 3, ports X axis to A
                    G10 P3 X0 Y175.2 Z0 U0 V0 W0.25 	; set tool 3 axis offsets
                    G10 P3 R0 S0 					; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    ; DITTO TOOLs 
                    M563 P4 S"DITTOFront" D0:1 H1:2 X0:5 F0:1				; Tool 2 uses extruders 1 and 2, hotend heaters 1 and 2, maps X to X and U, uses tool fans 4 and 5
                    G10 P4 X77 Y0 U-77    									; Set tool offsets and temperatures for tool 2 - moves X 77 left and U 77 right
                    G10 P4 R0 S0
                    M567 P4 E1.0:1.0:0.0:0.0 								; Set mix ratio 100% on both front extruders
                    M563 P5 S"QUAD" D0:1:2:3 H1:2:3:4 X0:3:5:6 F0:1:2:3		; Tool 6 uses extruders 1,2,3and4, hotend heaters 1,2,3and4, maps X to U,A and B, and tool fans 4,5,6 and 7
                    G10 P5 Y0 X0 U-155 V0 W-155   							; Set tool offsets and temperatures for tool 2 - moves X 77 left and U 77 right
                    G10 P5 R0 S0
                    M567 P5 E1:1:1:1										; Set mix ratio 100% on all extruders
                    
                    ;Firmware retractions
                    M207 P0 S0.70 F2100 T2500 Z0.4
                    M207 P1 S0.70 F2100 T2500 Z0.4
                    M207 P2 S0.70 F2100 T2500 Z0.4
                    M207 P3 S0.70 F2100 T2500 Z0.4
                    
                    ;Filament runout sensors
                    
                    ; Automatic saving after power loss is enabled
                    M911 S23.00 R23.50 P"M913 X0 Y0 U0 V0 W0 G91 M83 G1 Z2 E-4 F3000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                    
                    ; MISC
                    M501
                    
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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @MaracMB
                      last edited by

                      @MaracMB said in My quad carriage machine is failing on Tools. AGAIN.:

                      As suggested by @engikeneer, i have joint the Z axes. Is this now a problem?
                      homez.g :
                      G91 ; relative positioning G1 H2 Z5 F600 G1 Z-405 F900 H1 G1 Z2 F900 H2 G1 Z-5 F360 H1 G1 Z3 F900 ; lift both Zs to 3 G90 ; absolute positioning

                      This is correct in RRF3, but you've not changed the endstop configuration to match.

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" 			; configure active-low endstop for low end
                      M574 Y1 S1 P"!zstop" 			; configure active-low endstop for low end
                      M574 Z1 S1 P"!duex.e2stop" 		; configure active-low endstop for low end
                      M574 U2 S1 P"!ystop" 			; configure active-low endstop for high end
                      M574 V1 S1 P"!e0stop" 			; configure active-low endstop for low end
                      M574 W2 S1 P"!e1stop" 			; configure active-low endstop for high end
                      M574 A1 S1 P"!duex.e3stop" 		; configure active-low endstop for low end
                      

                      The Z endstop should be `M574 Z1 S1 P"!duex.e2stop+!duex.e3stop"

                      Assuming the second Z axis was A before the change. You'd also need to remove any references to the A axis unless you want to retain the ability to move/jog them independently. If all you want is the auto leveling with endstops, you don't need to split the Z into separate axis at all.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • engikeneerundefined
                        engikeneer @MaracMB
                        last edited by

                        @MaracMB I notice you have one of your motors (Y-axis?) very close to the Duet/Duex ribbon cable. Might it be that that is causing EMI and impacting the I2C? I'd try unplugging the Y-motor completely and seeing if it helps things.

                        Was the M122 output after you'd had some failed homings? I don't know what values you'd be looking for but they didn't seem crazy. Maybe someone who knows can comment...

                        One other thought - if your current Duex is a clone, there is always the chance that there is an issue with the board. In particular, I'd pull it out and double check all the soldering. I got a clone Duet WiFi earlier in the year and had to redo a few of the joints that they hadn't soldered properly (one was the bed heater so very glad I spotted!).

                        E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                        Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                        i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                        • MaracMBundefined
                          MaracMB @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux yes i do only use split Z to Z and A when homing. I did try to join those, make a double endstop on single axis. but was experiencing the same thing. will try again as suggested maybe just because it makes no difference and there is one less thing to worry about as it certainly makes no difference otherwise.

                          @engikeneer you might be correct. there must be some EMI. with the abundant wiring, that can easily be the case.

                          yes, sadly, clone it is for now. original got damaged smd component (my fault) and also got shot on some voltage regulators for a fan due to closed circuit i overlooked. So i had a duex clone at hand so that's what i used. sux, not ideal, but has to do for now.
                          i can not afford originals until i get this working, but after that, i will most certainly put an original Duex5 in it. Not because it would work better, but reliability (better capacitors, fuse, latest version of pcb, etc), warranty, support i get here... it is just the right thing to do.
                          I suggest people on socials to use original duets because of that. it is the support that one pays. Clones are waaay too expensive for what one gets imho.

                          Anyhow.
                          In the time waiting and thinking i got pretty intimate with e3d toolchanger configs and scripts (from nibbles). They don't have so many axes moving, but that code is much nicer and thought out with running conditionals, low current homing (probably due to sensorless homing i guess) and m400's within called scripts. Much better. I must adapt that.

                          for the time being, i just home Z by manually calling it , then Gcode just homes X Y U V W. That works for now.

                          Anyhow, i'll report here if EMI is the cause it's the most logical next reason.

                          Thank you all for now.

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                            Do you think you could upload your complete config file as files so I can take a look at them together in my text editor more easily? It's a rather complex config and it would be a lot easier than scrolling around trying to find the current versions. Once I can see the whole picture it may become more apparent what should change.

                            Also, I think it might be best to stick to 3.1.1 for the time being. I don't think there are any fixes in there that would help you, and there may be other bugs in 3.2 that would hurt.

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                              @Phaedrux sure. i'll make a backup zip of the whole thing when i get back to it.
                              reverted back to 3.1.1 already.
                              spent way to much time just watching it fail.

                              changed the wires for that possible EMI at IDE cable... no luck.

                              as linked, i did a video, where i click home Z button in DWC. Only that button. If you observe, you can see that sometimes it fails to run left Z motor, then works like couple of times, then fails right, then left, then altough it runs motors it fails to stop on an endstop... i mean, it really makes no sense. it's a machine. an error should make repeatable fails.

                              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bWrnUszf52sSI6WxNkiBHYnSRBgFj5J1/view?usp=sharing

                              the thing that is repeating is it fails on the same drivers. but different board did no difference.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
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                                can you also provide the results of sending M98 P"config.g" in the gcode console?

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                                  calling config with m98 returns:

                                  m98 p”config.g”
                                  Warning: Macro file ”config.g” not found
                                  

                                  whole zipped package is here:
                                  https://www.dropbox.com/s/67teetv5d67ot7z/firmware backup 2020-11-8.zip?dl=0

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                                    @MaracMB said in My quad carriage machine is failing on Tools. AGAIN.:

                                    p”config.g”

                                    I think it's the curly quotes. Note the difference between ” and "

                                    Are you using a mac by chance?

                                    https://bear.app/faq/How to disable smart quotes and dashes/

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                                      @Phaedrux no, but it’s probably due to teamviewer with iphone issue. That’s how i communicate with it while away

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                                        Error: in file macro line 158 column 14: M567: array too long, max length = 2

                                        Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 302C
                                        Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 665C
                                        Warning: Heater 3 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 482C
                                        8. 11. 2020 20:25:01 Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 365C
                                        Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 365C

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                                          @MaracMB said in My quad carriage machine is failing on Tools. AGAIN.:

                                          Error: in file macro line 158 column 14: M567: array too long, max length = 2

                                          Looks like this one

                                          M567 P4 E1:1:0:0

                                          But no error from this one

                                          M567 P5 E1:1:1:1

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                                            @Phaedrux said in My quad carriage machine is failing on Tools. AGAIN.:

                                            Looks like this one
                                            M567 P4 E1:1:0:0

                                            That figures. The M563 command that creates tool 4 is this:

                                            M563 P4 S"DITTOFront" D0:1 H1:2 X0:5 F0:1 ; Tool 2 uses extruders 1 and 2, hotend heaters 1 and 2, maps X to X and U, uses tool fans 4 and 5

                                            Tool 4 uses two extruder drives, so it expect two E values, not four.

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