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    • Frederikundefined
      Frederik @A Former User
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      @CaLviNx IMG_20201120_221537.jpg IMG_20201120_221704.jpg IMG_20201120_221621.jpg

      My Printer is a Ratrig VCore Pro Kit with the EasyMod and EVA Carriage.

      I startet my journey into 3d printing around 4 weeks ago with Information gathering etc...
      ... And 4 days ago, I finished the build.

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      • A Former User?
        A Former User @Frederik
        last edited by A Former User

        @Frederik

        if it was me I would firstly tension the bed to bed frame springs, then measure them and make they all the same height, perpendicular to the bed frame.

        Then I would home all with the final homing of Z axis taking place with the probe located at the bed centre.

        Then I would have the printer carry out a G32 (more than once) NOTHING else, and allow it to "level" the bed/frame using the three lead screws, and allow it to apply those corrections .

        Then carry out a single G30 probing at the centre of the bed to re-establish the datum point.

        Then finally carry out a G29 and see what it comes up with.

        You need to remember level doesnt mean flat..... and dont get too hung up on the graphic look at the amount of deviation you have.

        how many linear rails does the z axis run on ?

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        • Frederikundefined
          Frederik @A Former User
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          @CaLviNx Ok, i will test this in the morning.

          I have 2 Linear Rails on z ( left + right in the middle ). The Leadscrews are ~ 6 cm in front of them

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            A Former User @Frederik
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            @Frederik said in First Layer and Extrusion Problems:

            I have 2 Linear Rails on z ( left + right in the middle ). The Leadscrews are ~ 6 cm in front of them

            A very strange (to me anyway) arrangement for linear rails, in that you would expect 3 rails with three lead screws.

            But if it works then happy days. Personally I always have x3 rails/lead screws and have the bed frame with a degree of articulation to allow the levelling to operate as it should, once you get it setup the levelling gives you great prints

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              @CaLviNx said in First Layer and Extrusion Problems:

              G30 P0 X2 Y-2 Z-99999 ; Probe near the front left lead-screw

              G30 P1 X152 Y278 Z-99999 ; Probe near the rear lead screw

              G30 P2 X290 Y-2 Z-99999 S3 ; Probe near the front right lead-screw

              M671 X425:200:-25 Y240:-25:240 S1 ; leadscrews at front left, rear middle and front right

              how are these points near the leadscrews?

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              • Frederikundefined
                Frederik @A Former User
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                @CaLviNx That´s how this kit is designed. Eventually, I will change it to a kinematic mount without the 2 Linear Rails like the HevOrt. At the moment I have a battle with my E3d Volcano... it is constantly clogging and I don´t know what
                I´m doing wrong... trying to print PLA with ~ 205 ° Nozzle and 60° Bed.

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                • Frederikundefined
                  Frederik @Veti
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                  @Veti i have this settings:

                  M671 X425:200:-25 Y240:-25:240 S3 - position of Spindles with drives 2.3.4

                  and this are the spot i´m probing:

                  G30 P0 X330 Y250 Z-99999 ; Probe near the front left lead-screw
                  G30 P1 X165 Y0 Z-99999 ; Probe near the rear lead screw
                  G30 P2 X0 Y250 Z-99999 S3 ; Probe near the front right lead-screw

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti
                    last edited by

                    is 0,0 not the bottom left of your printbed?

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                    • Frederikundefined
                      Frederik @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti x0,y0 ls in my case the right, rear corner

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                      • Frederikundefined
                        Frederik
                        last edited by

                        I could only mount the Endstop on the left side of my carriage and the Y Endstop is at the back

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti @Frederik
                          last edited by

                          @Frederik said in First Layer and Extrusion Problems:

                          x0,y0 ls in my case the right, rear corner

                          thats going to be very confusing.
                          certainly because of that you got the offset of your probe wrong.

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                          • Frederikundefined
                            Frederik @Veti
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                            @Veti should i change it ?

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                            • Frederikundefined
                              Frederik @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti this is my actual drive mapping and endstop config:

                              M569 P0.0 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.1 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.2 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.3 S0										  ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.4 S0										  ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.5 S1                                          ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                              M584 X0.1 Y0.0 Z0.2:0.3:0.4 E0.5                      ; set drive mapping```
                              
                              
                              ;Endstops
                              M574 X2 S1 P"!io1.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin !io1.in
                              M574 Y1 S1 P"!io0.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin !io0.in
                              M574 Z2 S2                                            ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                              
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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                can you set 0,0 in your slicer to be top right? i just checked in prusaslicer and 0,0 is bottom left

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                                • Frederikundefined
                                  Frederik @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti i have to look. i used cura 4.8.0 at the moment. I didn´t want to spend money on simplyfy 3d bevor the new version 5 is released. Hopefully soon 🙂

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                                  • Frederikundefined
                                    Frederik @Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    @Veti yes, its possible. you can set high or low endstop positions in advanced printer setttings

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti @Frederik
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                                      @Frederik
                                      my recommendation is to not do it. why do you think that is better?

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                                      • Frederikundefined
                                        Frederik
                                        last edited by

                                        what could be the cause of this message :

                                        G28 Z
                                        Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                        Error: Homing failed

                                        i got this message on every 4th or 5th try to home z.

                                        its a genuine bltouch

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          that sounds like a wiring probem

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                                          • Frederikundefined
                                            Frederik @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti i tought, perhaps its the standard and would be better for compatibility or troubleshoooting reasons...

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