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    • holco62undefined
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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @holco62
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        @holco62 said in when will the new Z-height actually be saved?:

        M109 ; Set Extruder Temperature and Wait

        Have you set a temperature? M109 by itself does nothing. See here for how you would use M109

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M109_Set_Extruder_Temperature_and_Wait

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        • holco62undefined
          holco62 @Phaedrux
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          @Phaedrux
          Ok, I was under the impression that the Cura slicer controls the temp

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          • Phaedruxundefined
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            It does, but in start.g Cura has no input yet. Cura can't control anything until the print gcode starts.

            Start.g happens before any slicer code. You can use it for preparing the printer to receive the print gcode.

            Heat up, home all, leveling, etc. Then Cura will take over, set the final print temperatures as you've set in the slicer.

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            • holco62undefined
              holco62
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              Ok it starts to get a bit clearer (very small bit 😏 )

              Btw, how can I prevent the printer from homing after G32?

              I would like to have this sequence,

              First manually set bed temp / hotend temp in Duet control

              Load print command> homing axes> G32> start printing, so no homing after G32.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
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                Post your Cura start gcode. That's where it would be defined.

                Technically you don't need to use start.g at all. You could do it all in Cura.

                M116; Wait
                G28 ; home printer
                G32 ; bed.g for leveling

                Or just use Start.g to preheat. Since it's a progression you can split it up however it makes sense. If you want you can even call a macro file in your slicer start gcode section.

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @holco62
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                  @holco62 said in when will the new Z-height actually be saved?:

                  Ok it starts to get a bit clearer (very small bit 😏 )

                  Btw, how can I prevent the printer from homing after G32?

                  As mentioned start.g executes before any code from the slicer.

                  There are places in the slicer where you can insert you own code which is usually executed shortly after the first slicer generated code. Exactly when depends on the slicer and the slicer settings used.

                  I use S3D and it generates the following code just BEFORE inserting code that I might enter into the slicer. What is shown assumes the temp settings are 60 and 190.

                  G90                      ; absolute XYZ moves
                  M83                      ; relative E moves
                  M106 S0                  ; fan off
                  M140 S60                 ; bed temp to 60
                  M104 S190 T0             ; extruder temp to 190
                  ; my code would appear at this point
                  

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • holco62undefined
                    holco62 @holco62
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                    @holco62 said in when will the new Z-height actually be saved?:

                    Ok it starts to get a bit clearer (very small bit 😏 )

                    Btw, how can I prevent the printer from homing after G32?

                    I would like to have this sequence,

                    First manually set bed temp / hotend temp in Duet control

                    Load print command> homing axes> G32> start printing, so no homing after G32.

                    Removed the start.g file and added G32 in the Cura exstruder start-g code, everything now works exactly as I want 😎

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                    • holco62undefined
                      holco62 @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux said in when will the new Z-height actually be saved?:

                      Post your Cura start gcode. That's where it would be defined.

                      Technically you don't need to use start.g at all. You could do it all in Cura.

                      M116; Wait
                      G28 ; home printer
                      G32 ; bed.g for leveling

                      Or just use Start.g to preheat. Since it's a progression you can split it up however it makes sense. If you want you can even call a macro file in your slicer start gcode section.

                      Sorry for quotting myself yesterday 😊 I was supposed to quote you in my penultimate post, but better late than never, you nailed it again so thank you 👍

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                      • holco62undefined
                        holco62
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                        G32 works well in Cura (Extruder Start Gcode), but with the start of a print when all temps have been reached the effector first slowly approaches the bed, just before the nozzle hits the bed, it's homing and then starts the G32 calibration and goes printing.

                        Is there any way to skip that initial slowly going to the bed?

                        I am also curious if other changes / settings are needed with regard to Cura 4.8 which I have now set as a standard Anycubic Predator, especially stringing (PLA) gives me a hard time to get it right with a Mosquito hotend.

                        I shot a short video of it

                        https://youtu.be/cFRNCrjWwww

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Everything it does at the start of the print is dictated by the slicer start gcode. Can you copy and paste the first 50 lines or so of a slicer gcode file? Also include your current homedelta, bed.g and config.g so we can see exactly what's going on and can tell you what needs to change.

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                          • holco62undefined
                            holco62
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                            Cura doesn't let me copy the start G-code, so I took 2 pictures

                            Start G-code-1.png

                            Start G-code-2.png

                            I'll post the rest in a moment

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                            • holco62undefined
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                              homedelta (1).g bed (1).g config (1).g

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @holco62
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                                @holco62 said in when will the new Z-height actually be saved?:

                                (Extruder Start Gcode),

                                So I don't see G32 in your start gcode, but you say you have it in the Extruder start gcode section? Why there? What else do you have there?

                                The reason for the double homing is that you have G28 at the beginning of your bed.g file.

                                Can you post the first 50 lines of a sliced gcode file so I can see what the slicer is actually outputting?

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                                • holco62undefined
                                  holco62
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                                  four_square_retrac.8mm.gcode

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                                  • holco62undefined
                                    holco62
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                                    The G32 is in the Extruder Start G-code.

                                    Extruder Start G-code.png

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.8.0
                                      T0
                                      M190 S60
                                      M104 S210
                                      M109 S210
                                      M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
                                      G32
                                      G21 ;metric values 
                                      G90 ;absolute positioning 
                                      M82 ;set extruder to absolute mode 
                                      M107 ;start with the fan off 
                                      G28 ;Home 
                                      G1 Z15.0 F1000;short move 
                                      G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length 
                                      G1 F200 E3 ;extrude 3mm of feed stock adjust so I don't have to remove any filament 
                                      G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length again 
                                      G1 F4000 ;move to bed 
                                      ;Put printing message on LCD screen 
                                      M117 Printing... 
                                      ;G5; this is in order to resume on Power failure (only works on SD prints)
                                      M83 ;relative extrusion mode
                                      G1 F3000 E-8
                                      ;LAYER_COUNT:99
                                      ;LAYER:0
                                      M107
                                      G0 F3600 X-20.499 Y-9.085 Z0.25
                                      ;TYPE:SKIRT
                                      G1 F3000 E8
                                      G1 F1800 X-20.49 Y-9.761 E0.02459
                                      G1 X-20.438 Y-10.692 E0.03392
                                      G1 X-20.306 Y-11.615 E0.03392
                                      

                                      I think you should remove the G32 from the Extruder start gcode. That's not a usual place to put it.

                                      Also remove the G28 from bed.g. It's better to keep the commands separate so it's more clear about what is happening when.

                                      Then change your start gcode in cura to be this

                                      G21 ;metric values 
                                      G90 ;absolute positioning 
                                      M82 ;set extruder to absolute mode 
                                      M107 ;start with the fan off 
                                      G28 ;Home 
                                      G32 ; calibration
                                      G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length 
                                      G1 F200 E3 ;extrude 3mm of feed stock adjust so I don't have to remove any filament 
                                      G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length again 
                                      G1 F4000 ;move to bed 
                                      ;Put printing message on LCD screen 
                                      M117 Printing
                                      

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                                      • holco62undefined
                                        holco62
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                                        Works perfectly now 👍 👍 👍

                                        https://youtu.be/tdl2iDNiC9Q

                                        What did the line "G1 Z15.0 F1000; short move" that has now been removed?

                                        Btw, I think it's really remarkable that you can remember all those codes 👌

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @holco62
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                                          @holco62 said in when will the new Z-height actually be saved?:

                                          What did the line "G1 Z15.0 F1000; short move" that has now been removed?

                                          Nothing useful.

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                                          • holco62undefined
                                            holco62
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                                            Another question 😊

                                            If the printer runs the G32 calibration, the nozzle leaves a little filament on each calibration spot, now I wondered if it is possible that after each print job, for example, 50mm retraction takes place so that the hotend is always free of filament, and that after the G32 calibration the 50mm (or more) is immediately re-fed.

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