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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      Yes, and you can either update the Pi to also be 3.2 b4, or flash the duet back to 3.1.1

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by Phaedrux

        If you wish to use the latest unstable DSF components, you can run the following commands instead:

        wget -q https://pkg.duet3d.com/duet3d.gpg
        wget -q https://pkg.duet3d.com/duet3d-unstable.list
        sudo mv duet3d.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
        sudo mv duet3d-unstable.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/duet3d-unstable.list
        sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/duet3d.gpg
        sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list.d/duet3d-unstable.list
        

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Software_Installation

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        • Turricannundefined
          Turricann
          last edited by

          Thanks that is what i needed to sort that issue, I upgraded to try and resolve the original issue about the heater recommended by @T3P3Tony ,

          I will redo config.g now and see what happens with the heaters.. thanks for your support.

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          • Turricannundefined
            Turricann
            last edited by Turricann

            OK config.g redone left every thing else default from a clean install on the Pi

            On my duet 3 6hc i have the below,
            Running on a 24v supply

            Out0 - heatbed. - on/off working OK
            Out1 - 24v heater.
            Out7 - Hotend fan
            Out8 - Partcooling fan
            Out9 -Partcooling fan (Disconnected)
            TEMP0 - Heatbed thermistor(B9350)
            TEMP1 - Hotend Thermistor (B4138)
            Temp3- Thermistor from Z probe.
            IO_0 = pannal Due - currently disconnected.
            IO_3 = Z probe Pinda v2 type
            Driver 0 = X
            Driver 1 = Y
            Driver 2 = Z1
            Driver 3 = E0
            Driver 4 = Z2
            Driver 5 = Z3

            Thats is everything connected and my config.g is,

            ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.10 on Mon Dec 07 2020 21:49:17 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)

            ; General preferences
            G21 ; Work in millimetres
            G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
            M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
            M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

            ; Drives
            M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards (X)
            M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards (Y)
            M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards (E0)
            M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards (Z1 Front Left Motor)
            M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards (Z2 Back Left Motor)
            M569 P0.5 S0 ; physical drive 0.5 goes backwards (Z3 Right Motor)

            M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.4:0.5 E0.3 ; three Z motors connected to driver outputs 2,4 and 5
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

            M671 X205:205:-195 Y-205:205:0 S0.01 ; leadscrews at Front left (X195 Y195), Rear left (X195 Y-195) and right (X0 Y-195)

            M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z80.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm M92 X80 Y80 for 1.8º degree steppers and M92 X160 Y160 for 0.9º
            M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z360.00 E600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)

            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z120.00 E120.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

            ; Axis Limits
            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
            M208 X410 Y410 Z410 S0 ; set axis maxima

            ; Endstops
            M574 X1 Y1 S3 ; use stall guard for XY endstops (X min, y max)
            M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe

            ;M915 X Y R0 F0 H400 ; Stall guard config when not homing

            ; Z-Probe

            M558 P5 C"^io3.in" I1 H1 F1000 T6000 A20 S0.005 ; Prusa PindaV2 sensor config.
            M308 S2 P"temp3" A"Pinda V2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; Prusa PindaV2 temperature config.
            G31 P500 X0 Y30 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X15:375 Y15:375 S20 ; define mesh grid

            ; Heaters
            M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
            M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
            M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
            M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
            M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
            M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
            M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
            M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
            M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

            ; Fans
            M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
            M106 P0 S0.7 H1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned
            M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
            M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M950 F2 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out9 and set its frequency
            M106 P2 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

            ; Tools
            M563 P0 S"HOTEND" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

            ; Custom settings are not defined

            ; Miscellaneous
            M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
            M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
            M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
            T0 ; select first tool

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @Turricann
              last edited by

              @Turricann So with a fresh config and Pi the heater is still staying on once enabled?

              But it's not turning on automatically when power is first applied, right?

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              • Turricannundefined
                Turricann
                last edited by Turricann

                yes that is correct as long as the hotend is below 45 Degrees or fan0 has not got thermostatic control disabled .

                If thermal control is enabled and the hotend is below 45 degrees the heater will turn on and off normally,
                If its above 45 Degrees the hotend will come on with power.

                This is why i came to the conclusion the heater will not turn when the fan is on.

                one more thing is if there are no fans set up i cannot control the heater.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  It looks like your config was pasted twice maybe in your last post?

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                  • Turricannundefined
                    Turricann
                    last edited by

                    One other thing is when the heater comes on at power up its not instant there is about a 30 second delay like it only happens when the pi powers up.

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                    • Turricannundefined
                      Turricann @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux yes it was just realized that myself.

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                      • Turricannundefined
                        Turricann
                        last edited by

                        Thermistor attached to heater is a ATC Semitec 104GT-2 104NT-4-R025H42G

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by dc42

                          @Turricann, please state clearly which heater output and which fan output are the ones involved in this issue. I think it's heater 1 on out1, but you appear to have changed the fan configuration between the original config.g you posted and the recent one, and I can't tell whether the fan involved is on out7, out8 or out9.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • Turricannundefined
                            Turricann @dc42
                            last edited by

                            @dc42 Heater is on output1 and fan is on out7(F0)

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Thanks. How have you wired the hot end heater to OUT0 and the fan to OUT7? Are the wires for the heater and fan completely separate, or have you used a common wire for both of them?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Turricannundefined
                                Turricann @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 they have there own power and ground cables. Wired to there respective terminals, there only two pin headers so not much to go wrong there.

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @Turricann
                                  last edited by

                                  @Turricann are the wires for hot end and fan bundled together? Is there any chance that connections in the wiring loom could be shorting between them? The pins between out1 and out7 are electrically isolated from each other (different MOSFET drivers and not adjacent at the MCU) so it's unlikely to be a short on the board causing this problem. Do you have a mulitmeter that you can use to check for shorts between the fan and heater wiring? Because the symptoms you describe really do point in that direction.

                                  Ian

                                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                  • Turricannundefined
                                    Turricann @droftarts
                                    last edited by

                                    @droftarts Well after some head scratching and working through my wiring you were dead right i had a short between the two ground plane's on a custom pcb which i was using as breakout board, the issue was when i was metering the hotend i removed the screws to get to the back of the PCB when i done this there is no short, but because i inadvertently connected the two ground planes to via's where the screws went threw the PCB and those screw's went into to a metal plate it caused a short.

                                    Picked up a tool board from ooznest to replace my PCB.

                                    Thanks For you support on this.

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @Turricann
                                      last edited by

                                      @Turricann Glad you got it sorted! Those sort of issues can be a real pain to track down. Thanks for your continued support of our products!

                                      Ian

                                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                      • Turricannundefined
                                        Turricann
                                        last edited by

                                        @droftarts there's always a possibility but they are two independent runs straight back to the board, I have checked the cable for short but not between theater and fan.

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