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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk
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      Either way to be honest.
      My preference is to use the correct voltage fans but other people are happy with buck converters

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
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        have you measured the resistance ?

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        • Blacksheep99undefined
          Blacksheep99 @Veti
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          @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

          have you measured the resistance ?

          169.1 Kohms If i read it correctly. That is at room temp which is cool today as there's no heating on at the moment in that room.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @Blacksheep99
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            modules:composer.user_said_in, @Blacksheep99, ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade

            That is at room temp which is cool today as there's no heating on at the moment in that room.

            which is about what temperature?

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            • Blacksheep99undefined
              Blacksheep99 @Veti
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              @Veti thermostat in that room says 12c

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              • Blacksheep99undefined
                Blacksheep99 @jay_s_uk
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                @jay_s_uk said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                Either way to be honest.
                My preference is to use the correct voltage fans but other people are happy with buck converters

                I think I side with you. I'll order some fans

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
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                  ok thats inline with a 100k ntc thermistor.

                  but which one is not as easy to determine.

                  can you put the thermistor at 100C using a known good temperature measuring tool?

                  i.e here is a beta 3950 resistance table.
                  https://www.keenovo.com/NTC-Thermistor-R-T-Table.pdf

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                  • Blacksheep99undefined
                    Blacksheep99 @Veti
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                    @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                    ok thats inline with a 100k ntc thermistor.

                    but which one is not as easy to determine.

                    can you put the thermistor at 100C using a known good temperature measuring tool?

                    i.e here is a beta 3950 resistance table.
                    https://www.keenovo.com/NTC-Thermistor-R-T-Table.pdf

                    I'm not sure how I'd go about that especially with what I have available at the moment. Am I daft thinking i could try suspend it in some boiling water and measure it then?

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
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                      can you post a picture of the thermistor in the hotend?

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                      • Blacksheep99undefined
                        Blacksheep99 @Veti
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                        @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                        can you post a picture of the thermistor in the hotend?

                        I'll try. I've a work call now but will do it after.

                        thanks for your help.

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
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                          How was the original board configured - maybe you can borrow some info from there?

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                          • Blacksheep99undefined
                            Blacksheep99
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                            Best I can manage at the moment. I'll have to take the shroud off etc.

                            hotend3.jpg hotend4.jpg Hotend1.jpg hotend2.jpg

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                            • Blacksheep99undefined
                              Blacksheep99 @A Former User
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                              @bearer said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                              How was the original board configured - maybe you can borrow some info from there?

                              Pics.

                              control board1.jpg control board2.jpg

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                              • Blacksheep99undefined
                                Blacksheep99
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                                This other board was below the touch screen.

                                control board3.jpg

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
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                                  Ouch / RIP. No immediately obvious easy way to get anything from that, the main cpu on the motion controller had seen better days indeed.

                                  (there is what looks like a 8 pin soic flash chip, but might not be worth while extracting it if settings are in the other cpu's flash / eeprom)

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                                  • Blacksheep99undefined
                                    Blacksheep99 @A Former User
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                                    @bearer It didn't smell too great when that happened 😧

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                                    • Blacksheep99undefined
                                      Blacksheep99 @Veti
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                                      @Veti said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                                      ok thats inline with a 100k ntc thermistor.

                                      but which one is not as easy to determine.

                                      can you put the thermistor at 100C using a known good temperature measuring tool?

                                      i.e here is a beta 3950 resistance table.
                                      https://www.keenovo.com/NTC-Thermistor-R-T-Table.pdf

                                      I have an infrared thermometer gun (for the pizza oven). How about in the oven and use that to read the surface temp of it?

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                                      • A Former User?
                                        A Former User
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                                        if the oven temp is stable then it should work if left long enough for temperature to equalize on the board and oven; i prefer to use water with crushed ice and boiling water for a 2 point calibration as its more stable and water conducts the temperature better than air (but water does have its own challenges)

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                                        • A Former User?
                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          Also as you'll tweak the print profile it doesn't matter if you print at 210 or 215 as long as you get consistent results - i.e. precision is more important than accuracy unless running a print farm.

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                                          • Blacksheep99undefined
                                            Blacksheep99 @A Former User
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                                            @bearer said in ST3Di Modelsmart 280 - Duet Maestro repair/upgrade:

                                            Also as you'll tweak the print profile it doesn't matter if you print at 210 or 215 as long as you get consistent results - i.e. precision is more important than accuracy unless running a print farm.

                                            That's a good point. It will be run as a lone printer.

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