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Changing pt100 to standard thermistor

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    Phaedrux Moderator
    last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:24

    If your PSU has a trim pot for adjusting the output voltage try giving it a slight tweak and see if it reduces the value in the M122 a bit. Aim for 24v.

    Then if you connect your new thermistor and run a PID tuning see if the warning is the same. If it still estimates a 1000c+ max temp you should beware.

    You can also check your thermistor resistance with a multimeter to see if it's closer to 12v or 24v, but.. multimeter...

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      Atraedes @Phaedrux
      last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:26

      @Phaedrux thanks, ive just sent the comand and this came back, is this ok to now rewire or is there a problem? it says error...
      M305 P1 T100000 B3950
      Heater 1 uses PT100 (MAX31865) sensor channel 200, last error: short-circuit in sensor, 2/4 wires, reject 50Hz, reference resistor 400 ohms

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:27

        You should make the change to config.g and then reboot. You can rewire whenever you wish.

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          Veti @Atraedes
          last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:27

          @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

          M305 P1 T100000 B3950

          actually the epocs is T98801 B4185

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            Atraedes
            last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:34

            @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

            M305 P1 T100000 B3950

            Great, thanks, so instead then - M305 P1 T100000 B4185 ?

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:35

              @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

              T98801 B4185

              M305 P1 T98801 B4185

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                Atraedes
                last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 21:39

                @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                ; Tool 0
                M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                great, thanks, so change it here in config :
                ; Tool 0
                M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                So change M305 to the code you said, change M143 to new max temp on new hotend, thanks again for all

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                  Atraedes
                  last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 18:59

                  Hi @Phaedrux, thanks again for your help, it worked great, however, after i did the pid tune i tried to save it with M500 but it says "Warning: No M501 command was executed in config.g", ive since done a couple test prints also and it has flagged up "Error: Heating fault on heater 1" a couple of times, im stumped, the wiring is fine and checked, not sure where to go or why it doesnt take the M500 command

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                    Stephen6309 @Atraedes
                    last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:00

                    @Atraedes You need a M510 at the end of config,g.

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                      Atraedes
                      last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:01

                      thanks, tried it, it says "Warning: M510 command is not supported"

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:02

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M500_Store_parameters

                        M500 saves to config-override.g, and M501 loads it. You need to add M501 to the end of config.g to load the saved values at startup.

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                          Atraedes
                          last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:02

                          the sd card is buried deep in the machine also so i cant easily get to it without taking the bottom of etc.., i just assumed i could do everything via the console?

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                            Stephen6309 @Atraedes
                            last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:02

                            @Atraedes Oops, i ment M501. The keyboard keeps reversing things. 🙂

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                              Atraedes
                              last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:05

                              thanks again, so i made the changes you advised straight to the config files incl the config in sys folder on the sd card, loaded back into the machine, then ran pid tune, got this - "Auto tune heater 0 completed in 1489 sec
                              Use M307 H0 to see the result, or M500 to save the result in config-override.g", but then when i entered M500 via the console it answered - "M500
                              Warning: No M501 command was executed in config.g". Did i do something wrong?

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                                Atraedes
                                last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:07

                                i then tried M501, and got this - "M501
                                Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 692C.", feels like im back to square one lol, but the whole hotend, cables and all, are new, and confirmed 24v

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                                  Veti @Atraedes
                                  last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:08

                                  @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                  Warning: No M501 command was executed in config.g". Did i do something wrong?

                                  add M501 to the end of your config.g

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                                    Atraedes
                                    last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:09

                                    so remove the SD card from the machine and type M501 at the very end of the config file? Can i not send that via the console?

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                                      Veti @Atraedes
                                      last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:11

                                      @Atraedes
                                      just edit the file using the web ui

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                                        Atraedes
                                        last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:12

                                        sorry i dont know how to do that, im still learning the ropes with the duet3d board i have

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                                          Veti
                                          last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 19:13

                                          please read

                                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_Web_Control_Manual

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