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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      when the error occured

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      • Atraedesundefined
        Atraedes
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        it happened when i was heating the hotend to 205c to do a test cube

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        • Atraedesundefined
          Atraedes
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          I've got it heated to 200c now and for the last 15mins or so and it seems ok, but this is probably the 3rd or so time its had a hotend error since i made the changes earlier today

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          • Atraedesundefined
            Atraedes
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            ok so its just done it again, temp spiked instantly up to 1600, then 1k, and lower but all within seconds, and now its almost cold...

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            • Atraedesundefined
              Atraedes
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              can i save the set up files and perhaps default the board? perhaps flash it or start again? or will that not change anything?

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              • dc42undefined
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                last edited by dc42

                If it spiked to 1600C that suggests either an intermittent short circuit, or a short between the heater terminals and the thermistor wires, or ESD. These same causes would explain the error report "last error: short-circuit in sensor" you had when using the PT100.

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                • Atraedesundefined
                  Atraedes
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                  thanks, i guess you're right as i cant find any other fault i can see, so if the thermistor and heater terminals touch at the heater block that would also cause a short?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @Atraedes
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                    @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                    thanks, i guess you're right as i cant find any other fault i can see, so if the thermistor and heater terminals touch at the heater block that would also cause a short?

                    It's not uncommon for heater cartridges to develop shorts between the element and the case, which connects the hot end metalwork to VIN. If you also get a short between the temperature sensor and the hot end metalwork, that will short the sensor to VIN.

                    If you have a connector in the sensor cable, check that connector. Sometimes a single strand of wire escapes the crimp and touches the other one.

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                    • Atraedesundefined
                      Atraedes
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                      thanks, i will check that now, i only crimped that ruddy jst connector earlier and now that you mention it that seems the likely cause, many thanks

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                      • Atraedesundefined
                        Atraedes
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                        must have been the thermistor connector in the board, changed it and steady now for 20mins, doing the first test...

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
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                          When did it give that M501 error? Did you send M501?

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                          • Atraedesundefined
                            Atraedes
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                            i did and it still did it, thanks anyway, the machine has found its way out the window so its all good now, thanks anyway

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by Phaedrux

                              You don't send M501. You put it at the end of config.g and that's it.

                              When the duet powers on it runs through config.g to configure the machine. Then at the end it gets to M501 and then it knows to also load config-override.g, which has your tuned PID settings.

                              So when you sent M501 when the heater was running at 200c it re-applied any saved PID values it had saved in config-override.g from when you did the PID tuning and saved them with M500. That's probably where the fault came from.

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                              • Atraedesundefined
                                Atraedes
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                                no i did as you advised, when the pid tune completed, i went into system in the web ui, and put m501 at the end of the config.g file, saved, it asked to reset it to save the settings and i checked it afterwards and m501 was still in the config.g file, was that not the way to do it?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                  PID tune, send M500 in console, add M501 to config.g. done.

                                  Here's a guided example: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s161

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                                  • Atraedesundefined
                                    Atraedes
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                                    i first sent m500 from the console in the web ui at the end of the pid tune, that saved, then did as i thought you said in the config.g, as above

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                                    • Atraedesundefined
                                      Atraedes
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                                      thanks for the guide, i think i did all of this but perhaps i missed something, i will try again after ive checked all the cables again, many thanks

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        I think you've got it, just trying to understand if the error was related.

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                                        • Atraedesundefined
                                          Atraedes
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                                          it must be something i missed, perhaps another bad connection, i think its due a full rewire to be totally sure, thanks again, good night

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                                          • Atraedesundefined
                                            Atraedes
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                                            @Phaedrux - Thanks again for your help with this, and everyone else, again, much appreciated! So I've swapped the heater block & heater cables, and no more errors! Cant be sure what it may have been as the entire hotend plate & all was new, upgraded from bowden rig to the sovol sv01 complete hotend as I had that laying around. So all resolved. If its not to much trouble, I'm assuming I need to change the feedrate now that I've changed my Chiron bowden setup to direct drive? How would i change and save it, thanks in advance

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