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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @Dan1990
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      @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

      see
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_bed_heater

      I understood that I must connect that to the OUT_2. Thanks

      Bed heater should be connected to OUT0 unless you are using an external SSR or mosfet switch to control it.

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      • Dan1990undefined
        Dan1990 @dc42
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        @dc42

        That question was related to the chamber heater but I have solved it - thanks to the very rich documentation that has been made from you.

        If the sensor is a 2-wire microswitch, we recommend that you use the normally-closed contacts, which are the two outermost tags on the switch (leave the centre tag not connected).

        However, I am facing another issue a the moment, I have read that Duet recommends having endstops (the very simple one, with two wires) to be wired NC but I have another way around and I wonder if is possible to change that in firmware?

        I have tried to change the S value from 1 to 0 and from 1 to 2 but that did not work.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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          @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

          I have tried to change the S value from 1 to 0 and from 1 to 2 but that did not work.

          In RRF3 you would use M574 S1 but invert the signal by adding a ! to the pin name.

          ex M574 Z1 S1 P"!zstop"

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M574_RepRapFirmware_Num_3

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          • Dan1990undefined
            Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux

            Thank you, that worked!

            One more question - how I can change the safety values for heaters? My chamber heater is not powerful enough to reach 1,7oC/ sec.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Usually running a PID auto tune on the heaters is all that's needed to resolve those errors since it gives the firmware an expectation of performance.

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

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              • Dan1990undefined
                Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux

                I have done that, hopefully will help.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  Make sure you remember to use M500 to save the results to confif-override.g and add M501 to the end of config.g to load those results at startup.

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                  • Dan1990undefined
                    Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                    @Phaedrux

                    Did that, the RRF notified me after PID tuning!

                    I am so amazed by the firmware!

                    Worth the money!

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                      @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                      My chamber heater is not powerful enough to reach 1,7oC/ sec.

                      Can you share the tuned results for the chamber heater? Increasing the dead time value can sometimes help.

                      Share the entire config.g as well.

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                      • Dan1990undefined
                        Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux

                        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                        ;
                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Sun Jan 10 2021 17:23:39 GMT+0000 (GMT)

                        ; General preferences
                        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                        M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name

                        ; Drives
                        M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                        M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                        M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                        M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                        M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X201.27 Y201.23 Z800.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
                        M671 X-20:220 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
                        M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                        M208 X220 Y220 Z240 S0 ; set axis maxima

                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 S1 P"!io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io0.in
                        M574 Y1 S1 P"!io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
                        M574 Z1 S1 P"!io2.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin io2.in

                        ; Z-Probe
                        ;;M558 P5 C"^io3.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                        ;G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                        ;M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                        ; Heaters
                        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                        M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                        M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                        M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                        M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                        M950 H2 C"out2" T2 ; create chamber heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 2
                        M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the chamber heater and set PWM limit
                        M141 H2 ; map chamber to heater 2
                        M143 H2 S100 A0 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 100C
                        M301 H2 B1

                        ; Fans
                        M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                        M106 P0 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                        M106 P1 S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                        ; Tools
                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                        ; Custom settings are not defined

                        ; Miscellaneous
                        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

                        The PID as below:

                        Heater 2 model: gain 340.0, time constant 140.0, dead time 5.5, max PWM 1.oo, calibration voltage 0.0, mode PID
                        Computed PID parameters for setpoint change P13.4, I0, 482, D51,4
                        Computed PID parameters for load change P13.4 i0.949, D51.4

                        Could you advise me on how to invert the Z2 motor, I did the Z1.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                          @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                          Could you advise me on how to invert the Z2 motor, I did the Z1.

                          I don't know what you mean by this.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                            @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                            Heater 2 model: gain 340.0, time constant 140.0, dead time 5.5, max PWM 1.oo, calibration voltage 0.0, mode PID
                            Computed PID parameters for setpoint change P13.4, I0, 482, D51,4
                            Computed PID parameters for load change P13.4 i0.949, D51.4

                            Share the contents of your config-override.g so we can see the actual formatted M307 commands

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                            • Dan1990undefined
                              Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux

                              I am sorry for not being clear enough,

                              I have two Z-axis, I have changed the rotation of Z1 (rotating anticlockwise) but Z2 rotating clockwise

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                              • Dan1990undefined
                                Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                                @Phaedrux

                                ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2021-01-05 16:33

                                ; Heater model parameters
                                M307 H0 R0.000 C495.100:140.000 D0.80 S1.00 V24.0 B0
                                M307 H1 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                M307 H2 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                ; Workplace coordinates
                                G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                                  @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                                  M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                                  M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                                  M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                  M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping

                                  You only have a single Z driver defined, so I'm surprised the other is turning at all. Which driver are you using for Z1 and which for Z2?

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                                    @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                                    M307 H0 R0.000 C495.100:140.000 D0.80 S1.00 V24.0 B0
                                    M307 H1 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                    M307 H2 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0

                                    I find it odd that your hotend heater and chamber heater are using the same values.

                                    I suggest you re-run the PID turning for each heater in turn and then save the results again with M500

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                                      Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                                      @Phaedrux

                                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
                                      M671 X-20:220 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
                                      M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

                                      See above, I have read that I should add those g-codes and it is in the file

                                      I am using 0.4 pin

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
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                                        Ah I see now.

                                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
                                        M671 X-20:220 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
                                        M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

                                        The M584 you have needs to move up and replace the one above it that I quoted.

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                                          Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                                          @Phaedrux

                                          Silly me, I should notice that, changing that right away.

                                          I will perform PID tuning and will paste the results here.

                                          Btw: Should the Diagnostic LED blink all the time? I have Duet 3.
                                          I have read that is normal but prefer to confirm

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                                            @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                                            Btw: Should the Diagnostic LED blink all the time? I have Duet 3.
                                            I have read that is normal but prefer to confirm

                                            yes that is normal

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