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    Phaedrux Moderator
    last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:20

    If you send just G1 H1 Z-400 F600 in the console does it move the z axis down to the endstop or does it just sit there and change the z axis position to 0?

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      gabrealek @Phaedrux
      last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:22

      @Phaedrux said in New to the duet COMPLETE NEWBIE:

      G1 H1 Z-400 F600

      It just sits there. when i press home z it goes higher. when i try to bring it back down it does nothing.

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        gabrealek @Phaedrux
        last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:24

        @Phaedrux
        ; homeall.g
        ; called to home all axes
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

        G91 ; relative positioning
        G1 H2 Z18 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
        G1 H1 X-300 Y-300 F3000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
        G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
        G1 H1 X-300 Y-300 F3600 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
        G1 H1 Z-400 F3600 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
        G1 Z5 ; back off
        G1 H1 Z-400 F600 ; home z again slowly
        G90 ; absolute positioning

        ; homez.g
        ; called to home the Z axis
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
        G91 ; relative positioning
        G1 H2 Z18 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
        G1 H1 Z-405 F6000 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
        G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
        ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:25

          And does it set the current position to Z0?

          Check M119 again please. It sounds like the endstop is already triggered at the start, so it won't move any further.

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            gabrealek @Phaedrux
            last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:28

            @Phaedrux said in New to the duet COMPLETE NEWBIE:

            M119

            M119
            Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: at min stop, Z probe: at min stop

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by Phaedrux 22 Jan 2021, 03:29

              And just to be clear, when you sent M119 the z endstop wasn't actually pressed, right?
              Quick photo of the z endstop?

              Maybe you DO need the ! to invert the Z endstop?

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                gabrealek @Phaedrux
                last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:36

                @Phaedrux

                Okay

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                  gabrealek @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:48

                  @Phaedrux I inverted it and it went down so far it cracked the glass . 😞

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                    fcwilt @gabrealek
                    last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 03:57

                    @gabrealek said in New to the duet COMPLETE NEWBIE:

                    @Phaedrux I inverted it and it went down so far it cracked the glass . 😞

                    When configuring a printer for the first time you need to take certain precautions.

                    For instance you can trigger an end stop switch by hand to verify that it stops the movement of the axis when it should.

                    In this case you would start from far the bed, being homing, hit the end stop switch and confirm movement stops.

                    If it didn't you can kill power before something breaks - like you piece of glass.

                    Also you can force very slow speeds by editing your M203 command to something like

                    M203 X500 Y500 Z500

                    which gives you more time to observe and react if something starts to go wrong.

                    Did you use my homing code?

                    We can get things working - just take it one step at a time.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      gabrealek @fcwilt
                      last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 04:08

                      @fcwilt yes . . I did use the homing code .. the way my setup is right now i have to reach around to kill the power. . im going to to change things once i print some supports for the new things . . Thank you. I appreciate your help. Im going to post all of my homes to see if you can find anything. . At this point im staring at the computer . . kind of scared to turn it back on . . I may need to take a break.

                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                      ; General preferences
                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M550 P"Creola" ; set printer name

                      ; Network
                      M552 S1 ; enable network
                      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                      M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                      M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                      M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E97.08 ; set steps per mm
                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z120.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                      M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                      M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                      M574 Z1 S1 P"!zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin !zstop

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P0 H18 F120 T480000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                      M557 X10:220 Y10:220 S20 ; define mesh grid

                      ; Heaters
                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 0
                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                      M143 H0 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C
                      M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e1temp
                      M950 H1 C"e1heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 1
                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      ; Fans
                      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q20 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                      M106 P0 C"PartCool" S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q20 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                      M106 P1 S1 H T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                      ; Miscellaneous
                      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                      M911 S21 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                      T0 ; select first tool

                      ///

                      ; homeall.g
                      ; called to home all axes
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                      G91
                      G1 H1 Z-400 F3000
                      G92 Z0 ; change Z0 to match the actual Z co-ordinate at which the Z end stop triggers
                      G1 Z10
                      G1 H1 X-300 Y-300
                      G1 X5 Y5
                      G1 H1 X-6 Y-6 F300
                      G90

                      ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                      ;G91 ; relative positioning
                      ;G1 Z18 F8000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      ;G90 ; absolute positioning

                      ///

                      ; homex.g
                      ; called to home the X axis
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 H2 Z18 F480000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 H1 X-305 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                      G1 H2 X5 F480000 ; go back a few mm
                      G1 H1 X-305 F3600 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                      G1 H2 Z-18 F480000 ; lower Z again
                      G90 ; absolute positioning

                      ///

                      ; homey.g
                      ; called to home the Y axis
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 H2 Z18 F3000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 H1 Y-305 F3000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                      G1 H2 Y5 F3000 ; go back a few mm
                      G1 H1 Y-305 F3600 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                      G1 H2 Z-18 F3000 ; lower Z again
                      G90 ; absolute positioning

                      ////

                      ; homez.g
                      ; called to home the Z axis
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Tue Jan 19 2021 17:33:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 H2 Z18 F480000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 H1 Z-405 F3000 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                      G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                      ;G91 ; relative positioning
                      ;G1 Z18 F8000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      ;G90 ; absolute positioning

                      Thank you all for your help, it is greatly appreciated. I feel a lot better with you all helping me, THERE IS STILL HOPE

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                        fcwilt
                        last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 04:31

                        It's late here (11:30 EST) and I need to turn in. We can take this up tomorrow.

                        I'm working on my 6th, 7th and 8th printer.

                        Even so I still take it one step at a time.

                        Step one is always to get the WiFi working so I have access to the DWC where I can do the rest of the configuration.

                        Then I connect one piece of hardware at a time and verify that it is working as expected - that stepper motors turn, end stop switches work correctly, fans run, heaters heat, etc.

                        By doing that when something doesn't work I know exactly where I need to look for the problem.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          Phaedrux Moderator @gabrealek
                          last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 05:23

                          @gabrealek said in New to the duet COMPLETE NEWBIE:

                          @Phaedrux I inverted it and it went down so far it cracked the glass . 😞

                          Ah nuts. Sorry about that.

                          I'm wondering if your Z endstop wiring is not correct.

                          Regardless of the ! being there or not, if it's electrically connected to the Duet it should report as stopped/not stopped and change state if the switch is actually clicked at the time when you send M119.

                          Can you post a photo of the endstop wiring at the board? The creality endstops should be wired to the 2 outside pins of the endstop connector.

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                            gabrealek @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 10:20

                            @Phaedrux its okay. I can always get another . no worries.

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                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 19:32

                              Ok, I can mostly see the endstops and they all look like they are connected correctly with the wires going to the outside pins, so that's a good start.

                              Now to make sure the wires are actually connected electrically.

                              Send M119 and see what the Z stop says.
                              Then hold down the Z switch and send M119 again while holding it clicked and see if the status changes.

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                                gabrealek @Phaedrux
                                last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 21:45

                                @Phaedrux

                                Its being so mean 😂

                                1/22/2021, 4:44:48 PM M119
                                Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: not stopped, Z probe: at min stop
                                1/22/2021, 4:44:33 PM M119
                                Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: not stopped, Z probe: at min stop

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 21:50

                                  So being clicked or not it's not registering? Just as a control, text the other endstops as well.

                                  If that is the case that pressing the endstop isn't registering at all then there could be a break in the wire or poor connection. In which case reseating the z endstop plug on the board may help. If you have a multimeter you can check the wire for continuity and whether the endstop switch will complete or break a circuit.

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                                    gabrealek @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 22:02

                                    @Phaedrux
                                    Okay. So how would i test with a multimeter? As in where to on the Z? Im still new at using this multimeter , ill post a pic to know exactly which setting to set it to. Also which command do i sent to test only for Z? THANKKASSSS621C9C88-A4C3-4363-9EB1-286D307B0B1E.jpeg

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 22:13

                                      This might help.

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK8np4t40c&ab_channel=HelpfulDIY

                                      When set to ohms (orange on the left side, infact the symbol below the 600 may be intended specifically for continuity the arrow and the beep symbol), you can touch the two probe tips together and the display number should change, and maybe beep. Meaning there is a connection between them. Touch something metal and it should do the same. Touch two ends of a wire, same thing.

                                      It will probably be easiest to remove the endstop from the printer entirely so that you can check the wire more easily. You'd basically want to touch one of the wires at the end that plugs into the printer, and the other end at the endstop itself.

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                                        gabrealek @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 22:24

                                        @Phaedrux

                                        Yeahhh .. . so i think its the actual endstop. Its really wiggly. . i don't think its suppose to be this way . . i just ordered some new ones, and new cables to dead this whole issue. by the time i'm done ill probably have enough supplies for another printer.

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                                          gabrealek @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 22:24

                                          @Phaedrux BUT THANK YOU THOUGH!! NOW I KNOW HOW TO USE IT THE RIGHT WAY. 🙂

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