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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by dc42

      Looks good!

      Can you explain the M801, M802 and M800 commands? It looks to me that M801 and M802 are highly inter-dependent. Specifying the number of points on one and the points in the other will require additional checks that they are consistent and associated error messages, and will lead to problems if you send one of them without the other. Therefore, unless you have a good reason to use three commands, I suggest combining them into one or two commands, for example:

      M801 X400:700 P0:12:12:25:25:0 ; cover X axis range 400 to 700mm, set corrections
      M801 Y200:400 P0:25:25:0 ; cover Y axis range 300 to 400mm, set corrections
      M800 X1 Y1 ; enable correction for X and Y axes

      However, I may have missed something, in particular I don't know what your R and A parameters are for.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • markzundefined
        markz
        last edited by markz

        Sure, here's the tentative syntax (from the code comment). I randomly picked the M80x's just to be easy to remember/type during debug.

        --Enable/disable all screw mapping. Does not clear tables.
        -- if no S prints report
        M800 S[0|1]

        -- create a screw table for srcaxis with one row per destaxis
        -- if no arguments it prints a summary report
        M801 R"srcaxis" A"destaxes" Sstart Iinterval Ncount

        -- set screw table entries
        may be called multiple times (once per row) for shorter gcode lines
        -- if no data (rows) it prints contents of table
        -- each entry is an offset (delta) value
        M802 R"srcaxis" Xf0:f1:f2:f3... Yf0:f1:f2...
        -- run the screwmap selftest (ifdef'ed just for debug testing)
        M810

        I considered condensing the Mcode but the destaxes is a list of possible axes that are adjusted by the source axis. So, the M802 syntax can be very very long.

        On my machine the X axis has 3 rows of 36 floats and the Y axis has 3 rows of 48 floats. So the M802 is a very long list of numbers. I'm not sure what the gcode limit is but this would be about 3000 characters.

        I let the M802 to be called repeatedly to set rows individually for clarity.

        --Mark

        postscript: I'm obviously not wedded to syntax. I'd just like the script file to be readable.

        There are two sets of 'upgrades' possible to the functionality for later syntax thoughts. I don't use that functionality on the CNC.

        This can support directional tables (which I don't use but some milling folks do) to support directional leadscrew wear. It can also support backlash as a 1 column directional screw map.

        postscript 2: in practice this works well in a script. Create a table, fill the values, create a table, fill ... The only odd error checking is to ensure the table data list is <= the defined length and the result values are monotonic. It would be easy enough to have M801 do both tasks depending on parameters but the interdependencies are worse and I think it's less clear.

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        • markzundefined
          markz
          last edited by

          Ok, even this M802 line is too long. There seems to be a 200 character upper limit and mine are over 300. I guess I should allow an offset in the M802 command.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @markz
            last edited by dc42

            @markz said in CNC Screw Mapping:

            Ok, even this M802 line is too long. There seems to be a 200 character upper limit and mine are over 300. I guess I should allow an offset in the M802 command.

            Is 200 characters not sufficient to describe the mapping for a single axis? A separate command for each axis seems reasonable to me.

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            • markzundefined
              markz @dc42
              last edited by markz

              @dc42 Thanks for all the interest. I just ran it quickly doing the following...

              The worst axis is X so I copied the old lookup map from WinCNC to excel, converted to mm, then created a script file... which was too big. So, I added the O option and redid it. This worked.

              I set the cnc to 116,0 (left of table), set down my yardstick horizontally.. then I disabled screw map, went to 15",0 - a known bad area) took a screen capture of the microscope view, return to 0,0 and enabled screw map then went back to (15",0) and took another screen capture.

              I hadn't tried it before - and - first try with no edits. Here's the script and the comparison photo. I know it's a lot of digits, but I'm used to inches. Probably could shrink it a little.

              M801 R"X" A"XY" S116 I25.4 N36
              M802 R"X" X0.00000:-0.04064:0.00000:0.06350:-0.07112:-0.10922:0.02286:-0.04318:0.00508:0.10414:-0.02794:-0.09652:-0.22352:-0.40894:-0.37846:-0.47752
              M802 R"X" Y0.00000:0.01778:0.06858:0.11176:0.14732:0.18034:0.22606:0.29210:0.34544:0.36576:0.40640:0.43942:0.46228:0.51308:0.53594:0.57658
              M802 R"X" O16 X-0.49784:-0.27178:-0.25908:-0.29718:-0.15240:-0.24638:-0.26162:-0.05080:-0.08636:0.01524:0.14224:-0.00508:0.05588:0.09144:0.07366:0.24130
              M802 R"X" O16 Y0.60960:0.59944:0.55372:0.48514:0.40640:0.30480:0.22606:0.19304:0.15748:0.09144:-0.21082:-0.48768:-0.15748:-0.12954:-0.10160:-0.08890
              M802 R"X" O32 X0.25654:0.25146:0.41656:0.78994
              M802 R"X" O32 Y-0.12446:-0.09652:-0.04572:0.01270
              M800 S1
              

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              • markzundefined
                markz @dc42
                last edited by

                @dc42 I've forked and updated the github repo. You can see the code changes at: https://github.com/MZachmann/RepRapFirmware/tree/v3.2-screwmap

                and it forks from the 3.02-dev branch (3.2 retail).

                Let me know where you'd like to go from here. Implement (pull request)? Move to M-codes? Change syntax?

                The only thing I couldn't yet figure out from the code base was how to correctly have the ui update the user position when the screw map definition changes.

                Mark

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                • markzundefined
                  markz
                  last edited by

                  Here's a doc file describing the current implementation of screw mapping.

                  Screw Mapping in RRF.docx

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                  • markzundefined
                    markz
                    last edited by

                    I've posted a video showing a calibration run (in X). It took about 1/2 hour to gather X and Y error terms and improved the CNC accuracy from .033" to .002".

                    here: https://youtu.be/wpUOaYwDrvI

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                    • botundefined
                      bot
                      last edited by

                      Nicely done!

                      I just had a thought, though. Make sure your yard-stick is straight. You could be compensating for an error in the yard stick.

                      *not actually a robot

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                      • markzundefined
                        markz
                        last edited by

                        Sorry, I should have posted that. You're absolutely right.

                        The yardstick is one of the most expensive hand tools I own since it's so important.

                        https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/58700246

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                        • botundefined
                          bot @markz
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                          @markz Oh!!!! That's a nice "yard stick" lol!!!

                          *not actually a robot

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                          • markzundefined
                            markz @bot
                            last edited by

                            @bot Yeah, Starrett would probably not be happy me calling it that.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              I also spit coffee on my laptop when I saw that price. 😳

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • botundefined
                                bot @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                I suddenly want a yard stick like that... but I couldn't even use such a large one! My print bed is only ~11" x 11". I'll look for it's younger sibling. And possibly metric, too.

                                *not actually a robot

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                                • markzundefined
                                  markz @bot
                                  last edited by markz

                                  @bot Yeah, I wish I had a metric one - if you watch the video I spend a lot of time converting inches. Kinda dumb.

                                  backstory - when I first realized about 10 years ago my CNC had so much error I did this measurement with a normal yardstick, couldn't believe the results (especially the Y error), so in order to root-cause I had no choice.

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                                  • markzundefined
                                    markz
                                    last edited by markz

                                    I've cleaned up the code so setting a screw map entry changes the DRO readout in real-time.

                                    Here are a couple of plots of my CNC error curves with increment=25.4mm (1 inch). Note the 2d-ishness of the whole thing.

                                    To put this in a worst case if I were just drilling holes the largest X error pre-compensation would be about 1.5mm (or 1/16th of an inch for US). Post-compensation error is 2*repeatability + test measurement error (~.03mm).

                                    XAxis Compensation.jpg YAxis Compensation.jpg

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