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    • martin7404undefined
      martin7404
      last edited by

      I just went to PRF 3.2 again and it is the same

      2/16/2021, 1:27:27 PM	G32 bed probe heights: 0.004 -0.006 -0.020, mean -0.007, deviation from mean 0.010
      2/16/2021, 1:27:02 PM	g32
      Leadscrew adjustments made: 0.067 0.023 -0.004, points used 3, (mean, deviation) before (0.032, 0.022) after (-0.000, 0.000)
      2/16/2021, 1:25:25 PM	G32 bed probe heights: 0.040 0.024 0.011, mean 0.025, deviation from mean 0.012
      2/16/2021, 1:25:01 PM	g32
      Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.160 -0.085 -0.057, points used 3, (mean, deviation) before (-0.106, 0.032) after (-0.000, 0.000)
      2/16/2021, 1:15:15 PM	G29
      30 points probed, min error -0.122, max error 0.006, mean -0.044, deviation 0.036
      Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
      

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      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
        3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
        last edited by

        @martin7404 The weight did not have any effect on leveling, It was still out of level. The Z height was .25mm lower but I think that's because the arm that holds the BL touch was flexing from the weight I put on it.

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        • martin7404undefined
          martin7404 @3DPrintingWorld
          last edited by martin7404

          @3DPrintingWorld Yes NO difference if G29 is on or off

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          • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
            3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
            last edited by

            @martin7404 Is your bed actual level or is it just saying that it is?

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            • martin7404undefined
              martin7404
              last edited by

              Using steel 10.5 gauge and panel due to steps I am within what G29 probing says les than 0.15

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              • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                last edited by

                @martin7404 Ok, not perfect but acceptable. Seems like your configuration is working properly. This about of error could be caused by the head tilting. A second bearing could help with that but would also increase the weight.

                If you used the same base config as me, I don't understand my issues. I'm thinking about ordering a new board just to see because I don't see how it can be on my end.

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                • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                  3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                  last edited by

                  @martin7404 Instead of two bearings, what about a option to upgrade to the wide series, mgw9h. This should reduce the tilt, and would result in less binding then two bearings mounted on different planes would.
                  mgw9h.png

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                  • martin7404undefined
                    martin7404
                    last edited by martin7404

                    @3DPrintingWorld said in Error: bad Command XXX W/RRF 3.2 and leveling issue:

                    mgw9h

                    Yes , but you have to switch to 4020 profile for the X and the mass would not be less
                    I took a look at hiwin pdf's . So LDO rails must light clearance type ZF (4 to 10 microns clearence between block adn rail) so 0.06-0.07 mm on 25 mm cantilever seems normal too. Maybe we can switch to light to slight preload blocks

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                    • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                      3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                      last edited by

                      @martin7404 Why would we have to switch to a 4020? I have not placed it in the model yet but I think it would fit on the 2020 just fine. As you say a preload would be an improvement too, especially considering there is only a single bearing. It would probably will have to get a genuine Hiwini though for a preload option.

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                      • martin7404undefined
                        martin7404
                        last edited by

                        Sorry I missed that 09MGW is a single row of bolts.
                        MGW is better I agree X momentum is about 3 times bigger

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                        • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                          3DPrintingWorld @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux There really is not much I can omit from the config as most of it is needed for homing. I can remove heaters, fans, and filament sensors but I don't see how that is going to help.

                          Have you seen any documentation to recover from the firmware being deleted?

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                          • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                            3DPrintingWorld @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux neverminded, I found fallback procedure 3.

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                            • martin7404undefined
                              martin7404 @3DPrintingWorld
                              last edited by

                              @3DPrintingWorld more likely due to the magnetic mat not flat within 0.15 mm. I tried pushing the X head lightly with my finger during G32, no diference

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                              • martin7404undefined
                                martin7404
                                last edited by martin7404

                                So found a major problem with Muldex and PRF 3.2
                                Started a print with T1 ( right , not main extruder) and all of suden the machine is printing in thin air , a few mm up, looked at paneldue and it shows of Z layer + my T1 offset - Z+2.85. Canceled the print.
                                In manual when I entrer T0 or T1 in the console , both heads come to exact position , measured with 10.5 mm steel gauge .
                                I do not understan what is hapening . With PRF 3.0 it was printing like a charm
                                Here is my config

                                G90                                             ; send absolute coordinates...
                                M83                                             ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                M550 P"Muldex"                                  ; set printer name
                                
                                
                                ; Network
                                M552 S1                                        ; enable network
                                M586 P0 S1                                      ; enable HTTP
                                M586 P1 S0                                      ; disable FTP
                                M586 P2 S0                                      ; disable Telnet
                                
                                ; Drives
                                M569 P0 S0                                      ; X physical drive 0 goes backwards
                                M569 P1 S0                                      ; Y right physical drive 1 goes backwards
                                M569 P2 S1                                      ; Y left physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                M569 P3 S1                                      ; U physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                M569 P4 S1                                     ; E1 physical drive 4 goes backwards
                                M569 P5 S1                                      ; Z left physical drive 5 goes backwards
                                M569 P6 S1                                     ; Z center physical drive 6 goes backwards
                                M569 P7 S0                                      ; Z right physical drive 7 goes forwards
                                M569 P8 S1                                      ; E2 physical drive 8 goes forwards
                                
                                M584 X0 Y1:2 U3 Z5:6:7 E4:8                     ; set drive mapping
                                
                                M350 X16 U16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1                                                           ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                M92 X199.7 U200 Y199.8:199.8 Z799.2:799.2:799.2 E813.07:830.00                        ; set steps per mm (1760nimble)
                                M566 X1000.00 U1000.00 Y1000.00:1000.00 Z80.00:80.00:80.00 E100.00:100.00                ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)(Nimble 40)
                                M203 X12000.00 U12000.00 Y12000.00:12000.00 Z1000.00:1000.00:1000.00 E4200.00:4200.00    ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                M201 X1310.00 U1310.00 Y1310.00:1310.00 Z35.00:35.00:35.00 E800.00:800.00                    ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)(500)(Nimble 120)
                                M906 X900 U900 Y900:900 Z900:900:900 E1000:1000 I30                                        ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent(Nimble 500)
                                M84 S120                                                                                  ; Set idle timeout
                                
                                ; Axis Limits
                                M208 X-18 Y0 U40 Z0 S1                          ; set axis min - adjust X to align nozzle
                                M208 X350 U422.7 Y333 Z300 S0                   ; set axis max 
                                
                                M669 K0 Y1:-1:0:1				                ; select Markforged Kinematics Y to react with X and U
                                
                                ; Endstops
                                M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                             ;X axis active high endstop switch
                                M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop+e1stop"                      ;Y Double max active high endstop switch
                                ;M574 Y1 S4 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
                                M574 U2 S1 P"e0stop"                            ;U axis active high endstop switch
                                ;M574 Z2 S4
                                
                                ;Stall Detection(no used)
                                ;M574 Y1 S4                                     ; Y axis stall detection
                                ;M915 P1:9 S3 F1 R0                             ; Y axis stall detection
                                
                                ; Z-Probe
                                M671 X-20.6:200:420.6 Y14.3:333.3:14.3 S10       ; Locations left, center, right          
                                M950 S0 C"duex.e6heat"                          ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                M558 P9 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H8 F600 A1 T12000   ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds 
                                G31 P25 X-29 Y0 Z1.42                           ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height(lower number farther away)1.8build 1.7glass 
                                M557 X10:320 Y20:290 S60                       ; probe from X=10 to 390, Y=10 to 290mm with a mesh spacing of 20mm
                                
                                ; Heaters
                                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4534 C9.565227e-8      ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                            ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                M143 H0 S120                                                     ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                                 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                M140 H0                                                          ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C0 R4700  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                             ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                M143 H1 S280                                                     ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                                 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C0 R4700 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
                                M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2                                             ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
                                M143 H2 S280                                                     ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
                                M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                                 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                
                                ; Fans
                                M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                             ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                M106 P0 S0 H-1                               ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                             ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500                             ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                                M106 P2 S0 H-1                                   ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                M950 F3 C"duex.fan8" Q500                        ; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan8 and set its frequency
                                M106 P3 S1 H2 T45                                ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                
                                ; LEDs
                                M950 F4 C"duex.fan6" ;Q500                       ; create LED 4 on pin duex.fan6 and set its frequency
                                M106 P4 S128 H-1                                 ; set LED 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned OFF
                                M950 F5 C"duex.fan7" ;Q500                       ; create LED 5 on pin duex.fan7 and set its frequency
                                M106 P5 S128 H-1                                 ; set LED 5 value. Thermostatic control is turned OFF
                                
                                ; Tools
                                M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 S"Left"                         ; define tool 0 Left 
                                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                  ; set tool 0 axis offsets y was .45
                                G10 P0 R0 S0                                     ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                
                                M563 P1 D1 H2 X3 F2 S"Right"                     ; define tool 1 Right
                                G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z2.55                          ; set tool 1 axis offsets - adjust Y to alignn nozzle
                                G10 P1 R0 S0                                     ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                
                                M563 P2 D0:1 H1:2 X0:3 F0:2 S"Copy"              ; define tool 2 Copy
                                G10 P2 X90 Y0 U-90 S0 R0                         ; set tool 2 axis offsets (WAS 105)
                                M567 P2 E1:1         
                                M568 P2 S1 ; turn on mixing for tool 2           ; set mix ratio 100% on both extruders
                                ;G10 L1 P1 X0.0 Y0.0 Z2.55
                                
                                M501                                             ; Record
                                M593 F66.6
                                
                                M575 P1 S1 B57600                                ;Panel due 
                                ;G92 Z150
                                ;G91
                                ;G1 Z0.1 f100
                                ;G90
                                

                                There is more , while printing in the air I pushed baybysteping up to - 2.5 , as a result the Z on panel due become almost +6 mm and the nozzle was still printing in air

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                                • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                  3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                                  last edited by 3DPrintingWorld

                                  @martin7404 said in Error: bad Command XXX W/RRF 3.2 and leveling issue:

                                  It's because you have a offset of "Z2.55" On the U axis tool for some reason.

                                  M563 P1 D1 H2 X3 F2 S"Right"                     ; define tool 1 Right
                                  G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z2.55                          ; set tool 1 axis offsets - adjust Y to alignn nozzle
                                  G10 P1 R0 S0                                     ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                  

                                  Not sure why it was the same when you tried it manually.

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                                  • martin7404undefined
                                    martin7404
                                    last edited by

                                    My left tool head is V6 and is 2.55 mm different from the copperhead

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                                    • martin7404undefined
                                      martin7404
                                      last edited by martin7404

                                      Just revert back to PRG 3.1.1 and it is the same
                                      Start print the head (T1) prints on Z 2.55 on the screen of DWC and is about 2.55 in the air. So just like there are 2 offsets applied one over the other,
                                      One of them is just like you made it in the slicer.
                                      One more thing using babysteps it changes the dimension on the DWC screen If I do - babysteps the screen Z goes up . It is the same with PRF3.1.1 and 3.2

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                                      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                        3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                                        last edited by

                                        @martin7404 said in Error: bad Command XXX W/RRF 3.2 and leveling issue:

                                        My left tool head is V6 and is 2.55 mm different from the copperhead

                                        oh, sorry I forgot that you had one V6.

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                                        • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                          3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                                          last edited by

                                          @martin7404 Can you verify in the G-code that they should be printing at the same height?

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                                          • martin7404undefined
                                            martin7404
                                            last edited by

                                            Here is the beginning of the code

                                            ; generated by PrusaSlicer 2.3.0+win64 on 2021-02-17 at 12:32:24 UTC
                                            
                                            ; 
                                            
                                            ; external perimeters extrusion width = 0.45mm
                                            ; perimeters extrusion width = 0.45mm
                                            ; infill extrusion width = 0.45mm
                                            ; solid infill extrusion width = 0.45mm
                                            ; top infill extrusion width = 0.40mm
                                            ; first layer extrusion width = 0.42mm
                                            
                                            M107
                                            ;TYPE:Custom
                                            M140 S90 ; set bed temp
                                            G10 P1 R240 S260 ; set standby and active temps for tool 1
                                            T1 P0 ; shortly activate tool 1 so that it goes to standby temp afterwards
                                            T-1 P0 ; deselect any tool
                                            G28 Y ; home Y axis
                                            G28 XU ; home X and U axis
                                            M190 S90 ; wait for bed temp
                                            G28 Z ; bed probing and leveling
                                            G29 S1 ; call saved bed shape map
                                            T1 ; select tool 1
                                            M116 P1 ; wait tool 1 active temp
                                            G1 X135 Y-3 F8000 ; move above prime line start position
                                            G1 Z0.25 ; get close to bed
                                            G92 E0.0 ; reset extruder position
                                            G1 X235 E22 F1000.0 ; prime line with first tool
                                            G92 E0.0 ; reset extruder position
                                            M221 S95 D1
                                            G21 ; set units to millimeters
                                            G90 ; use absolute coordinates
                                            M83 ; use relative distances for extrusion
                                            ;LAYER_CHANGE
                                            ;Z:0.3
                                            ;HEIGHT:0.3
                                            G1 Z0.300 F10800.000
                                            G1 E-0.60000 F2400.000
                                            G1 Z0.700 F10800.000
                                            G1 X198.287 Y128.383
                                            G1 Z0.300
                                            G1 E0.60000 F2400.000
                                            M204 S1000
                                            ;TYPE:Skirt
                                            ;WIDTH:0.42
                                            G1 F1124.798
                                            G1 X199.050 Y127.844 E0.04350
                                            G1 X199.959 Y127.645 E0.04333
                                            G1 X240.004 Y127.644 E1.86499
                                            G1 X240.884 Y127.817 E0.04177
                                            G1 X241.633 Y128.303 E0.04160
                                            

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