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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      What kinds of cards? I don't think I've heard of anyone going through that many before.

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      • gnydickundefined
        gnydick @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux Samsung 32GB class 10, not to mention every single card that has come with the boards.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          Do you use logging to the SD card?

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M929_Start_stop_event_logging_to_SD_card

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          • gnydickundefined
            gnydick @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux I do.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              That's a lot of write wear to the SD card if used long term. If it's something you want to continue using consider getting an industrial SD card with higher write endurance.

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              • arhiundefined
                arhi @gnydick
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                @gnydick said in SD Card corruption again, again:

                @Phaedrux I do.

                It is much cheaper to setup an UPS than to have logging turned on always

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @arhi
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                  @arhi

                  what does an ups have to do with logging?

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                  • gnydickundefined
                    gnydick @Phaedrux
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                    @Phaedrux it's not that much writing, really. the cards have write leveling. considering it's a 32GB card, it will take a VERY long time to wear down the card.

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                    • gloomyandyundefined
                      gloomyandy
                      last edited by gloomyandy

                      How corrupt are the cards? Can they be reformatted and reused or are they unusable once they fail?

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                      • Dr_Ju_Juundefined
                        Dr_Ju_Ju
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                        Silly question, but where are you buying them ?? I've had a couple permanently fail, and even though they were supposedly 'branded' items, I doubt they were as they were a lot cheaper than others.

                        Also try connecting them to a PC, whether Windows or Linux, & re-formatting them, I've resurrected a few that way....

                        Julian,

                        Old goat, learning new things….

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                        • arhiundefined
                          arhi @Veti
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                          @Veti said in SD Card corruption again, again:

                          @arhi

                          what does an ups have to do with logging?

                          I don't see any other reason to have logging "always-on" except if you want to have data to continue after power loss. This is better solved by UPS. For any other reason, it would make sense to log from time to time to check issues if you have them, but not always.

                          32G is a big card, you are probably writing over and over the same place if they are getting worn out quickly (many will lock the card for writing into read-only mode when they encounter write issues and cant remap the blocks any more, many will not fail on writes but silently ignore them). Possible solution would be to either never delete log files and only create new ones or always append to a log file and not truncate it ever. I have no clue how M929 actually work, never had a need for it, I have enough issues with crappy SD cards to force them to take the logging data too... tried many years ago with marling and gave up after few dead cards

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @arhi
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                            @arhi

                            powerloss recovery is M911 and not debugging.
                            those are two different things.

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                            • arhiundefined
                              arhi @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti yes, my mistake, you are only logging basic stuff (Start, stop ..) that should not eat up the SD card, not enough "traffic" ..

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
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                                i think it logs every move. so its a lot

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                                • gnydickundefined
                                  gnydick @Veti
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                                  @Veti it does not log every move. that would be silly.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    What level of logging are you using? What is the command used?

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                                    • gnydickundefined
                                      gnydick @Phaedrux
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                                      @Phaedrux
                                      M929 P"eventlog.txt" S1

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                                      • jrocklandundefined
                                        jrockland
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                                        The problem doesnt come from the boards.
                                        I use multiple duet3d boards with all kind of sd cards and never had that issue.
                                        You might have fakes from amazon/ebay: They look 100% like the real one but are 8g instead of 32g, and as the board think they are 32g it keep writing and destroy the card.

                                        I even once bough a fake from walmart. No joke. It is hard to find good stuff now.

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                                        • gnydickundefined
                                          gnydick @jrockland
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                                          @jrockland i don't think < 1GB would do that.

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                                          • jrocklandundefined
                                            jrockland @gnydick
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                                            @gnydick depend how many projects you have on those cards.. my cards usually run around 12+ g when I back them up. But im running a ton of high def projects..

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