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    • moe.adams9093undefined
      moe.adams9093 @Phaedrux
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      I took the bottom plate off to see if my Z motors are compensating and they do move but they move very slow so I don't know if there's an option where I can make my Zmotors to compensate equivalent with the same speed of the X&Y axis while printing

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Your Z accelerations are very slow. M201 Z80 but the jerk is very high. M566 Z800. Try swapping those two values.

        Such a high jerk is making the firmware think the z axis is able to keep up to rapid changes in z position, but it can't actually. So the z movement is probably lagging behind where it thinks it is.

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        • moe.adams9093undefined
          moe.adams9093
          last edited by

          Ok I will try to change these settings and see how’s it going to behavior. Thank you

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            How is the Z axis setup? What kind of speeds can we realistically expect from it?

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            • moe.adams9093undefined
              moe.adams9093
              last edited by moe.adams9093

              the Zaxis runs by 4 gearbox motors belt-driven. Expecting 100mm high-quality print speed

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Did swapping those values help?

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                • moe.adams9093undefined
                  moe.adams9093
                  last edited by moe.adams9093

                  Yes it did little bit I also ran a quick print test and the results not really promising. Looks like some vibration issues from the X&Y Im note sure if it’s my external driver or maybe my linear rail. 2D8E8A6C-B11F-458A-920B-A18DECB57192.jpeg 980EAAA2-9104-4FA3-812B-2DBFD261EC5E.jpeg 02A225C9-B0A1-498A-8A0C-6C43D596F17C.jpeg

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    M566 X10000 Y10000

                    your jerk on the X and Y is insanely high. Try reduce that to 1000.

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                    • moe.adams9093undefined
                      moe.adams9093
                      last edited by

                      Ok I will do that over the weekend do you have any resources regarding the T parameters for external driver I need to understand what each number represent and how it can affect. I’m using theses motors they are Nema 23 with integrated rotary encoder. I order today RS232 Cable so I can connect them to my pc and se if I can change so of the settings to match with my config.g FAB41018-5AE5-486D-A777-2C06BCCAFC18.jpeg 807FEEA7-F873-4A87-8927-3B3837D69D1A.jpeg . Thanks for all your help I really appreciate it

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @moe.adams9093
                        last edited by

                        @moe-adams9093

                        If you do not have the specs for those drivers try T2:2:10:10 for starters.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • moe.adams9093undefined
                          moe.adams9093
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                          So I did some lots of tweaking and here some results for a first full print it’s ABS print speed 3600mm/min Zaxis at 600mm/min print size 40x40x40 simplify 3D gave 1:18 hr/min estimate print time and it took about 1:40 hr/min. Bedtemp set at 100C and extruded at 235C But the quality is awful.

                          Here’s my new motor settings.

                          
                          ; Drives
                          M569 P10  R1  T3:3:6:10 S1   ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                          M569 P11  R1  T3:3:6:10 S1   ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                          M569 P3 S1                                             ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                          M569 P4 S0                                               ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                          M569 P5 S1                                               ; physical drive 5 goes Backwards
                          M569 P6 S1 ; physical drive 6 goes Backwards
                          M569 P8 S1           ; physical drive 7 goes Backwards 
                          M569 P2 S1                                               ; physical drive 9 goes backwards 
                          M584 X10 Y11 Z5:6:8:2 E3:4                               ; set drive mapping
                          M671 X50.0:480.0:480.0:50.0 Y50.0:50.0:460.0:460.0 S5   ; ZBelts Near Locations                  
                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1                               ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                          M92 X160 Y160 Z412.00 E420.00:420.00 ; set steps per mm
                          M566 X500 Y500 Z60 E500:500               ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M203 X6000 Y6000 Z800 E6000:6000     ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 X1000 Y1000 Z400 5000:5000     ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 X2600 Y2600 Z1100 E800:800 I30                     ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M84 S30                                                 ; Set idle timeout
                          
                          
                          

                          Here’s a picture of the actual print.

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                          Even with that low jerk settings the printer is shaking from the external driver. Printer weights about 270 Ib I don’t know if I need to go lower value on any of the settings or maybe the external driver not override Correct value from the config. G file or any other suggestions

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @moe.adams9093
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                            @moe-adams9093 said in G29S1 not loading during print and G32 not leveling properly:

                            M201 X1000 Y1000 Z400 5000:5000 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

                            You're missing an E on the extruder values.

                            Can you send M98 P"config.g" and post any errors that come up?

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                            • moe.adams9093undefined
                              moe.adams9093
                              last edited by

                              3/17/2021, 2:10:30 PM	M98 P"config.g"
                              HTTP is enabled on port 80
                              FTP is disabled
                              TELNET is disabled
                              

                              this is before I changed it didn't give me any error.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I think it may have messed up your expected Z and E accelerations. With the E missing you could send M201 by itself to see what it reports as the current values.

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                                • moe.adams9093undefined
                                  moe.adams9093
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                                  ok I'm going to run another test and see the results. thank you

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