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    • MrBlomundefined
      MrBlom
      last edited by

      Hello i have just installed a 2 hotend
      and now all hotends 1,2 and the heatbed is 2000 degrees
      even with no cable in bord it still says 2000
      it also like this on usb
      only thing i did was to change the hotend

      is it dead or what can i do?
      im runing the lates beta

      i dont have a PT-100 sensor or a daughter board
      just a normal duet wifi

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      • MrBlomundefined
        MrBlom
        last edited by

        hmmm after some searching i think it may be a short that did it
        others have killed there VSSA fuse when installing a hotend
        i found a thread how to replace it
        https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=247

        but one question how do i test if my VSSA fuse i broken
        also dose a short in the heater affect allt thermistors ?
        the all show 2000c

        sorry for the bad english

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          If the VSSA fusa blows then usually all the thermistors normally show -273C.

          You can test the VSSA fuse by using a multimeter to measure the resistance between the VSSA pin of one of the thermistor connectors, and the ground pin of one of the endstop connectors - with power off, of course.

          Which version Duet WiFi is it? The version number (1.0, 1.01 or 1.02) is printed on the top side of the board.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • MrBlomundefined
            MrBlom
            last edited by

            its a 1.01

            sorry but can you show exat where to measure and what the correct value is?
            i thinks its a short in the heater that did it

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            • MrBlomundefined
              MrBlom
              last edited by

              i found the vssa pin
              what is a good value on the multimeter?

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                The resistance should be no more than about 5 ohms.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • MrBlomundefined
                  MrBlom
                  last edited by

                  seting the multimeter to 200
                  and doing the mesaur i have a value of 0.03
                  good or bad ?
                  soory dont know mush about this

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                  • MrBlomundefined
                    MrBlom
                    last edited by

                    just tried a new thermistor it get a
                    "Temperature reading fault on heater 1: sensor open circuit"
                    2000c
                    but the rest works , motors ,web ui , fans

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      0.03 ohms sound suspiciously low. Are you measuring between a VSSA pin and a ground pin? Did you disconnect all the thermistors from the Duet first?

                      The "Thermistor open circuit" message is typical of a VSSA fuse failure.

                      The picture at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#VSSA_fuse shows a GND pin and a VSSA pin. You can measure the resistance between them, with the thermistors disconnected.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • MrBlomundefined
                        MrBlom
                        last edited by

                        this good new 🙂 i think
                        i did measure from the top of the board where the thermistor gose in and the vssa on the back
                        igusses that was wrong
                        measuring again from the 2 pins in the picture i have "OL" = broken fuse ?

                        im thinking of doing the
                        "Bypass the original fuse with an external cartridge fuse, fitted between one of the VSSA connections and one of the ground connections."

                        just to dubble check can i use any ground on the board?

                        Thanks dc42 for a fast and grate support

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          Yes you can use any ground, but for the lowest thermistor noise level I suggest you use one of the endstop connector grounds.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • MrBlomundefined
                            MrBlom
                            last edited by

                            it was the fuse !
                            1000 thansk again for greate support DC42!!!!!

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                            • MrBlomundefined
                              MrBlom
                              last edited by

                              grrr still broken
                              gose from normal values to 2000 to -2
                              random spikes

                              https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fbatrcs0sx5us9/Screenshot%202017-07-30%2017.14.28.png?dl=0

                              Hmmm may be the fuse holder …..

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                The 2000C spikes suggest a bad connection somewhere.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • MrBlomundefined
                                  MrBlom
                                  last edited by

                                  yes it was a faluty fuse holder
                                  solder it on the holder and now its been stable the last 5 min 🙂
                                  thanks again!

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                                  • MrBlomundefined
                                    MrBlom
                                    last edited by

                                    well its just not my week this week 😞
                                    run 2 print with out problem
                                    one on each extruder
                                    after that i tried to start a dual print
                                    left the room and came back after 5 min and the duet is dead all light is black
                                    and no i cant turn it on by the psu
                                    it works by usb but not by normal power
                                    i also did see a smal spark by the heater led light in the left corner
                                    so my guess this time is that its somthing wrong with the heater

                                    can i fix this also ?
                                    sorry for being a pain but is just not my lycky week 😞

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm not sure what you mean by the "left corner" - do you mean the bed heater LED or the E1 heater LED?

                                      See the note at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Mounting_and_cooling_the_board about not using metal washers.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • MrBlomundefined
                                        MrBlom
                                        last edited by

                                        its E0 heat lead i think
                                        and im not using metal washer

                                        what can i do now to fix this

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          If all the LEDs on the Duet are off, then no power is reaching the board. Either your PSU has stopped working, or the VIN terminal block screws are no longer tight, or something is shorting the PSU out.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • MrBlomundefined
                                            MrBlom
                                            last edited by

                                            you have right again 🙂
                                            the psu dont provide 24v any more
                                            thank for the fast support !

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