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    • MrBlomundefined
      MrBlom
      last edited by

      hmmm after some searching i think it may be a short that did it
      others have killed there VSSA fuse when installing a hotend
      i found a thread how to replace it
      https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=247

      but one question how do i test if my VSSA fuse i broken
      also dose a short in the heater affect allt thermistors ?
      the all show 2000c

      sorry for the bad english

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        If the VSSA fusa blows then usually all the thermistors normally show -273C.

        You can test the VSSA fuse by using a multimeter to measure the resistance between the VSSA pin of one of the thermistor connectors, and the ground pin of one of the endstop connectors - with power off, of course.

        Which version Duet WiFi is it? The version number (1.0, 1.01 or 1.02) is printed on the top side of the board.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • MrBlomundefined
          MrBlom
          last edited by

          its a 1.01

          sorry but can you show exat where to measure and what the correct value is?
          i thinks its a short in the heater that did it

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          • MrBlomundefined
            MrBlom
            last edited by

            i found the vssa pin
            what is a good value on the multimeter?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              The resistance should be no more than about 5 ohms.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • MrBlomundefined
                MrBlom
                last edited by

                seting the multimeter to 200
                and doing the mesaur i have a value of 0.03
                good or bad ?
                soory dont know mush about this

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                • MrBlomundefined
                  MrBlom
                  last edited by

                  just tried a new thermistor it get a
                  "Temperature reading fault on heater 1: sensor open circuit"
                  2000c
                  but the rest works , motors ,web ui , fans

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    0.03 ohms sound suspiciously low. Are you measuring between a VSSA pin and a ground pin? Did you disconnect all the thermistors from the Duet first?

                    The "Thermistor open circuit" message is typical of a VSSA fuse failure.

                    The picture at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#VSSA_fuse shows a GND pin and a VSSA pin. You can measure the resistance between them, with the thermistors disconnected.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • MrBlomundefined
                      MrBlom
                      last edited by

                      this good new 🙂 i think
                      i did measure from the top of the board where the thermistor gose in and the vssa on the back
                      igusses that was wrong
                      measuring again from the 2 pins in the picture i have "OL" = broken fuse ?

                      im thinking of doing the
                      "Bypass the original fuse with an external cartridge fuse, fitted between one of the VSSA connections and one of the ground connections."

                      just to dubble check can i use any ground on the board?

                      Thanks dc42 for a fast and grate support

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Yes you can use any ground, but for the lowest thermistor noise level I suggest you use one of the endstop connector grounds.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • MrBlomundefined
                          MrBlom
                          last edited by

                          it was the fuse !
                          1000 thansk again for greate support DC42!!!!!

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                          • MrBlomundefined
                            MrBlom
                            last edited by

                            grrr still broken
                            gose from normal values to 2000 to -2
                            random spikes

                            https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fbatrcs0sx5us9/Screenshot%202017-07-30%2017.14.28.png?dl=0

                            Hmmm may be the fuse holder …..

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              The 2000C spikes suggest a bad connection somewhere.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • MrBlomundefined
                                MrBlom
                                last edited by

                                yes it was a faluty fuse holder
                                solder it on the holder and now its been stable the last 5 min 🙂
                                thanks again!

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                                • MrBlomundefined
                                  MrBlom
                                  last edited by

                                  well its just not my week this week 😞
                                  run 2 print with out problem
                                  one on each extruder
                                  after that i tried to start a dual print
                                  left the room and came back after 5 min and the duet is dead all light is black
                                  and no i cant turn it on by the psu
                                  it works by usb but not by normal power
                                  i also did see a smal spark by the heater led light in the left corner
                                  so my guess this time is that its somthing wrong with the heater

                                  can i fix this also ?
                                  sorry for being a pain but is just not my lycky week 😞

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm not sure what you mean by the "left corner" - do you mean the bed heater LED or the E1 heater LED?

                                    See the note at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Mounting_and_cooling_the_board about not using metal washers.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • MrBlomundefined
                                      MrBlom
                                      last edited by

                                      its E0 heat lead i think
                                      and im not using metal washer

                                      what can i do now to fix this

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        If all the LEDs on the Duet are off, then no power is reaching the board. Either your PSU has stopped working, or the VIN terminal block screws are no longer tight, or something is shorting the PSU out.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • MrBlomundefined
                                          MrBlom
                                          last edited by

                                          you have right again 🙂
                                          the psu dont provide 24v any more
                                          thank for the fast support !

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                                          • MrBlomundefined
                                            MrBlom
                                            last edited by

                                            one of the v+ port has gone bad on the psu
                                            the other works finne now
                                            duet is up and runing again
                                            thanks again!

                                            hopfully this is the end for all my problems for now 🙂

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