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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      If the VSSA fusa blows then usually all the thermistors normally show -273C.

      You can test the VSSA fuse by using a multimeter to measure the resistance between the VSSA pin of one of the thermistor connectors, and the ground pin of one of the endstop connectors - with power off, of course.

      Which version Duet WiFi is it? The version number (1.0, 1.01 or 1.02) is printed on the top side of the board.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • MrBlomundefined
        MrBlom
        last edited by

        its a 1.01

        sorry but can you show exat where to measure and what the correct value is?
        i thinks its a short in the heater that did it

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        • MrBlomundefined
          MrBlom
          last edited by

          i found the vssa pin
          what is a good value on the multimeter?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            The resistance should be no more than about 5 ohms.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • MrBlomundefined
              MrBlom
              last edited by

              seting the multimeter to 200
              and doing the mesaur i have a value of 0.03
              good or bad ?
              soory dont know mush about this

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              • MrBlomundefined
                MrBlom
                last edited by

                just tried a new thermistor it get a
                "Temperature reading fault on heater 1: sensor open circuit"
                2000c
                but the rest works , motors ,web ui , fans

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  0.03 ohms sound suspiciously low. Are you measuring between a VSSA pin and a ground pin? Did you disconnect all the thermistors from the Duet first?

                  The "Thermistor open circuit" message is typical of a VSSA fuse failure.

                  The picture at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#VSSA_fuse shows a GND pin and a VSSA pin. You can measure the resistance between them, with the thermistors disconnected.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • MrBlomundefined
                    MrBlom
                    last edited by

                    this good new 🙂 i think
                    i did measure from the top of the board where the thermistor gose in and the vssa on the back
                    igusses that was wrong
                    measuring again from the 2 pins in the picture i have "OL" = broken fuse ?

                    im thinking of doing the
                    "Bypass the original fuse with an external cartridge fuse, fitted between one of the VSSA connections and one of the ground connections."

                    just to dubble check can i use any ground on the board?

                    Thanks dc42 for a fast and grate support

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      Yes you can use any ground, but for the lowest thermistor noise level I suggest you use one of the endstop connector grounds.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • MrBlomundefined
                        MrBlom
                        last edited by

                        it was the fuse !
                        1000 thansk again for greate support DC42!!!!!

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                        • MrBlomundefined
                          MrBlom
                          last edited by

                          grrr still broken
                          gose from normal values to 2000 to -2
                          random spikes

                          https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fbatrcs0sx5us9/Screenshot%202017-07-30%2017.14.28.png?dl=0

                          Hmmm may be the fuse holder …..

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            The 2000C spikes suggest a bad connection somewhere.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • MrBlomundefined
                              MrBlom
                              last edited by

                              yes it was a faluty fuse holder
                              solder it on the holder and now its been stable the last 5 min 🙂
                              thanks again!

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                              • MrBlomundefined
                                MrBlom
                                last edited by

                                well its just not my week this week 😞
                                run 2 print with out problem
                                one on each extruder
                                after that i tried to start a dual print
                                left the room and came back after 5 min and the duet is dead all light is black
                                and no i cant turn it on by the psu
                                it works by usb but not by normal power
                                i also did see a smal spark by the heater led light in the left corner
                                so my guess this time is that its somthing wrong with the heater

                                can i fix this also ?
                                sorry for being a pain but is just not my lycky week 😞

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm not sure what you mean by the "left corner" - do you mean the bed heater LED or the E1 heater LED?

                                  See the note at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Mounting_and_cooling_the_board about not using metal washers.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • MrBlomundefined
                                    MrBlom
                                    last edited by

                                    its E0 heat lead i think
                                    and im not using metal washer

                                    what can i do now to fix this

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      If all the LEDs on the Duet are off, then no power is reaching the board. Either your PSU has stopped working, or the VIN terminal block screws are no longer tight, or something is shorting the PSU out.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • MrBlomundefined
                                        MrBlom
                                        last edited by

                                        you have right again 🙂
                                        the psu dont provide 24v any more
                                        thank for the fast support !

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                                        • MrBlomundefined
                                          MrBlom
                                          last edited by

                                          one of the v+ port has gone bad on the psu
                                          the other works finne now
                                          duet is up and runing again
                                          thanks again!

                                          hopfully this is the end for all my problems for now 🙂

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                                          • MrBlomundefined
                                            MrBlom
                                            last edited by

                                            how bad is this ?
                                            Supply voltage: min 20.8, current 23.7, max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0

                                            do i need to get a new psu ?

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