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    • MrBlomundefined
      MrBlom
      last edited by

      this good new 🙂 i think
      i did measure from the top of the board where the thermistor gose in and the vssa on the back
      igusses that was wrong
      measuring again from the 2 pins in the picture i have "OL" = broken fuse ?

      im thinking of doing the
      "Bypass the original fuse with an external cartridge fuse, fitted between one of the VSSA connections and one of the ground connections."

      just to dubble check can i use any ground on the board?

      Thanks dc42 for a fast and grate support

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        Yes you can use any ground, but for the lowest thermistor noise level I suggest you use one of the endstop connector grounds.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • MrBlomundefined
          MrBlom
          last edited by

          it was the fuse !
          1000 thansk again for greate support DC42!!!!!

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          • MrBlomundefined
            MrBlom
            last edited by

            grrr still broken
            gose from normal values to 2000 to -2
            random spikes

            https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fbatrcs0sx5us9/Screenshot%202017-07-30%2017.14.28.png?dl=0

            Hmmm may be the fuse holder …..

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              The 2000C spikes suggest a bad connection somewhere.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • MrBlomundefined
                MrBlom
                last edited by

                yes it was a faluty fuse holder
                solder it on the holder and now its been stable the last 5 min 🙂
                thanks again!

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                • MrBlomundefined
                  MrBlom
                  last edited by

                  well its just not my week this week 😞
                  run 2 print with out problem
                  one on each extruder
                  after that i tried to start a dual print
                  left the room and came back after 5 min and the duet is dead all light is black
                  and no i cant turn it on by the psu
                  it works by usb but not by normal power
                  i also did see a smal spark by the heater led light in the left corner
                  so my guess this time is that its somthing wrong with the heater

                  can i fix this also ?
                  sorry for being a pain but is just not my lycky week 😞

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    I'm not sure what you mean by the "left corner" - do you mean the bed heater LED or the E1 heater LED?

                    See the note at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Mounting_and_cooling_the_board about not using metal washers.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • MrBlomundefined
                      MrBlom
                      last edited by

                      its E0 heat lead i think
                      and im not using metal washer

                      what can i do now to fix this

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        If all the LEDs on the Duet are off, then no power is reaching the board. Either your PSU has stopped working, or the VIN terminal block screws are no longer tight, or something is shorting the PSU out.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • MrBlomundefined
                          MrBlom
                          last edited by

                          you have right again 🙂
                          the psu dont provide 24v any more
                          thank for the fast support !

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                          • MrBlomundefined
                            MrBlom
                            last edited by

                            one of the v+ port has gone bad on the psu
                            the other works finne now
                            duet is up and runing again
                            thanks again!

                            hopfully this is the end for all my problems for now 🙂

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                            • MrBlomundefined
                              MrBlom
                              last edited by

                              how bad is this ?
                              Supply voltage: min 20.8, current 23.7, max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0

                              do i need to get a new psu ?

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                You might want to measure the voltage with the bed heater fully on and with it off.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                • Cinproundefined
                                  Cinpro
                                  last edited by

                                  DC42 I think this may be what has happened to meas well. I got a reading of 1.4-1.7 ohms from the VSSA to GRD, too low? I have 2000c on the hot end connections, but the bed reads normal room temp.

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    Check your M305 P1 parameters. If they are correct at least approximately, then a reading of 2000c on a thermistor channel normally means you have a shorted thermistor, or a short between the thermistor and ground.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                    • Cinproundefined
                                      Cinpro
                                      last edited by

                                      The line is set up for the E3D thermistor, double checked it to be sure it still the way it has been. all the VSSA read the same with a meter, However when I plug the hot end on to the bed slot it reads normally. I found the Wiki page on the fuse: https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#VSSA_fuse

                                      I know I could solder the fuse like in the picture. the side with the resistor would be a problem for me going to the endstop ground. My hand wiggles on a good day, and shakes on the not so good ones. those terminals are pretty close together. I think I end up making a mess of things. I looking for someone who could do the work for me with the proper tools. Could that ground go to a different spot ( or is that just the closest. place)

                                      I found one of the part numbers for the fuse, there are a lot of resistors on there that are all 10k is this one acceptable or is there another one they carry that would be better in your opinion?

                                      https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/stackpole-electronics-inc/CF14JT10K0/CF14JT10K0CT-ND/1830374

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes that 10K resistor is fine. Or you can leave it out, but then the firmware won't tell you if you get another VSSA short.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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