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    Smart effector for delta printers
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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957
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      just hold off for a bit Lykle is still working on it with input from me as well.

      He is adding the standoffs as part of the print we just need to get the hight correct first?

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      • oleeundefined
        olee
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        I think M3 screws make the job better. 2.9mm hole diameter is exact size of external dia of M3 thread so it seems that David chose this size for precize positioning with M3 screws, IMHO.

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957
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          the fact that the PTFE Tube is locked in the bottom of the adaptor should locate it adequately

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          • Zesty_Lykleundefined
            Zesty_Lykle
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            OK, after some work, and a nice discussion with Doug, I have wrapped up the design for the adapter.

            It now features a nice set of integrated legs, 6.6 mm long as we want to make sure we do not bend the PCB when mounting the adapter. No idea if it will hinder the working of the sensor embedded in the PCB.

            So the Shapeways model is now complete and ready.
            The Thingiverse page holds the 2 models, the legless one and the legged one. (If you look at the adapter standing there you will realise why I am calling it the Grand Piano adapter)

            Shapeways http://shpws.me/OPLc
            Thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

            Lykle
            Design, make and enjoy life

            Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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            • oleeundefined
              olee
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              @Dougal1957:

              the fact that the PTFE Tube is locked in the bottom of the adaptor should locate it adequately

              Precision could not be much. BTW I ordered the adaptor and it could be seen small feet on bottom of the adaptor onat the picture on the order status page. So it's possiblly no standoffs are needed.

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957
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                yes indeed that is correct precise mount is important but the tube will locate it centrally anyway.

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                • oleeundefined
                  olee
                  last edited by

                  @Dougal1957:

                  yes indeed that is correct precise mount is important but the tube will locate it centrally anyway.

                  OK, you won. Your advices help me make another step building my delta so thanks anyway.

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User
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                    I think the Nimble is the way to go on a Delta, and after my aborted fiasco with the Distech Automation 2-1 effort im going with a nimble dual on my FT-5 too πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                    I am impatient now !!!!!

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                    • Dougal1957undefined
                      Dougal1957
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                      @CaLviNx:

                      I think the Nimble is the way to go on a Delta, and after my aborted fiasco with the Distech Automation 2-1 effort im going with a nimble dual on my FT-5 too πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                      I am impatient now !!!!!

                      https://vgy.me/ttRycy.png

                      Nice one Mark

                      Are you in Scotland?

                      Doug

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User
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                        @Dougal1957:

                        I hav'nt included the part fan as I use the Berdair system

                        Dammit will you stop showing me all these nice pieces of kit, it seriously dents my wallet πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                        That's the second time this forum cost me money, last time was showing the 20x40 kossel corners just after i had bought a 20x20 set…..

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                        • loicundefined
                          loic
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                          https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer

                          on you wiki there are only instruction for duet board
                          could you confirm us that it will be compatible with smoothie or marlin?

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            It's designed to be compatible with other firmwares. The big question is whether the sensitivity will be suitable. The x256 stepper drivers on the Duet give low vibration levels, allowing the sensitivity to be set quite high without vibration from the motors causing false triggering. This might not be the case if you use stepper drivers with lower microstepping.

                            The sensitivity can be adjusted by sending a serial bit stream to the effector. So if support for sending that is added to other firmwares, any possible problems with vibration could be overcome.

                            The effector also requires a short delay between the end of a travel move and the start of a probing move, however I understand there are versions of most firmwares with this facility now.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • tomasfundefined
                              tomasf
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                              This all looks fantastic. Can’t wait to order!

                              1. What’s the thickness of the carriage adapters?
                              2. Are some kind of technical drawings of the effector available (mainly for hole positioning), so I can make an adapter for my hotend?

                              Thanks

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                1. 2mm

                                2. I'll ask Tony to do some.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • jannisjundefined
                                  jannisj
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                                  @Dougal1957:

                                  I hav'nt included the part fan as I use the Berdair system

                                  How did you mount the berd air to the pcb effector?

                                  Thinking of getting it myself

                                  -Jannis

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                                  • Rommieundefined
                                    Rommie
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                                    It is done by an adapter Doug has made up, I'm sure he will either make you one or share the .stl if you ask him.

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      @jannisj:

                                      @Dougal1957:

                                      I hav'nt included the part fan as I use the Berdair system

                                      How did you mount the berd air to the pcb effector?

                                      Thinking of getting it myself

                                      -Jannis

                                      I just amassed the parts to make one myself after seeing Dougal1957 name his.

                                      The kit is $35.00 plus shipping but the cost of everything to make one myself via ebay cost me $9.54 including delivery

                                      I bought the following

                                      X1 24v air pump 4.5 litres a minute.
                                      X5 meters of surgical tubing (very flexible so hopefully there would be no resistance to induce any effector tilt that stiffer tube might induce)
                                      500mm of brass tube ( i will bend it and drill holes myself)

                                      I too would like to know the hole spacing of the ballstuds to allow me to print a bracket to hold the tube nice and close to the nozzle

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                                      • Dougal1957undefined
                                        Dougal1957
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                                        Mark

                                        The Ball spacing is 55mm on the tower side and 20mm on the short sideI Have Freecad design for a tube holder that I can share if you wish current variant is for a 3/32 inch OD Tube (The berdair one) but it can easily be modified for any size of tube. Do be aware however that there is an LED between the rods on the short side that needs to be able to shine thru the mount plate.

                                        Let me know if you need the files and I'll find somewhere to put them.

                                        Doug

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
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                                          It's 12mm between adjacent ball stud centres at each corner. You can find the design for the bracket I use to attach a print cooling fan at https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2467663. The notch is to leave space for the illumination LED.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • Dougal1957undefined
                                            Dougal1957
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                                            My Bad that's what happens when you go from memory!!

                                            Mine for the tube is that spacing

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