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    Dougal1957
    last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:45

    Yes

    https://www.shapeways.com/product/62MB3QZJ7/nimble-mount-base-for-smart-effector?optionId=62810434

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      olee
      last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:50

      @Dougal1957:

      Yes

      https://www.shapeways.com/product/62MB3QZJ7/nimble-mount-base-for-smart-effector?optionId=62810434

      That is a new one is the same as the old adaptor except it needs to use 7.4mm stands that I should make by myself?

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        Dougal1957
        last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 16:56 3 Aug 2017, 16:53

        it is quite a bit different to the old one although it may look the same and the stand offs can be purchased tho wether you will get 7.4 mm ones I am not sure but 10 would do you would just have to extend the PTFE Tube a bit further I think check ebay for standoffs.

        Found some 8mm long ones here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3-M4-M5-M6-M8-Nylon-plastic-spacers-standoff-washers/282477022050?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D757a377c307d47cf806cde39a5736fa8%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272505748740 you will also need some m2.5 screws and nuts probably around 20mm long screws should do I think

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          olee
          last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:01

          @Dougal1957:

          it is quite a bit different to the old one although it may look the same and the stand offs can be purchased tho wether you will get 7.4 mm ones I am not sure but 10 would do you would just have to extend the PTFE Tube a bit further I think check ebay for standoffs

          Thank you! It is just not obvious that the link points to a new version of adaptor as it looks much the same as the old one that I was ready to order before read las posts in this thread. So I will order this right now and if I got it right I can use standard bronze or plastic standoffs that used for PCB mounting. Thanks one more!
          Oleg

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            Dougal1957
            last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 17:29 3 Aug 2017, 17:28

            just hold off for a bit Lykle is still working on it with input from me as well.

            He is adding the standoffs as part of the print we just need to get the hight correct first?

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              olee
              last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:32

              I think M3 screws make the job better. 2.9mm hole diameter is exact size of external dia of M3 thread so it seems that David chose this size for precize positioning with M3 screws, IMHO.

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                Dougal1957
                last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:37

                the fact that the PTFE Tube is locked in the bottom of the adaptor should locate it adequately

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                  Zesty_Lykle
                  last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:55

                  OK, after some work, and a nice discussion with Doug, I have wrapped up the design for the adapter.

                  It now features a nice set of integrated legs, 6.6 mm long as we want to make sure we do not bend the PCB when mounting the adapter. No idea if it will hinder the working of the sensor embedded in the PCB.

                  So the Shapeways model is now complete and ready.
                  The Thingiverse page holds the 2 models, the legless one and the legged one. (If you look at the adapter standing there you will realise why I am calling it the Grand Piano adapter)

                  Shapeways http://shpws.me/OPLc
                  Thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

                  Lykle
                  Design, make and enjoy life

                  Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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                    olee
                    last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:03

                    @Dougal1957:

                    the fact that the PTFE Tube is locked in the bottom of the adaptor should locate it adequately

                    Precision could not be much. BTW I ordered the adaptor and it could be seen small feet on bottom of the adaptor onat the picture on the order status page. So it's possiblly no standoffs are needed.

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                      Dougal1957
                      last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:16

                      yes indeed that is correct precise mount is important but the tube will locate it centrally anyway.

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                        olee
                        last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:24

                        @Dougal1957:

                        yes indeed that is correct precise mount is important but the tube will locate it centrally anyway.

                        OK, you won. Your advices help me make another step building my delta so thanks anyway.

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:24

                          I think the Nimble is the way to go on a Delta, and after my aborted fiasco with the Distech Automation 2-1 effort im going with a nimble dual on my FT-5 too πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                          I am impatient now !!!!!

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                            Dougal1957
                            last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:26

                            @CaLviNx:

                            I think the Nimble is the way to go on a Delta, and after my aborted fiasco with the Distech Automation 2-1 effort im going with a nimble dual on my FT-5 too πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                            I am impatient now !!!!!

                            https://vgy.me/ttRycy.png

                            Nice one Mark

                            Are you in Scotland?

                            Doug

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                              A Former User
                              last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 18:30 3 Aug 2017, 18:28

                              @Dougal1957:

                              I hav'nt included the part fan as I use the Berdair system

                              Dammit will you stop showing me all these nice pieces of kit, it seriously dents my wallet πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                              That's the second time this forum cost me money, last time was showing the 20x40 kossel corners just after i had bought a 20x20 set…..

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                                loic
                                last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 23:11

                                https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer

                                on you wiki there are only instruction for duet board
                                could you confirm us that it will be compatible with smoothie or marlin?

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                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 05:47

                                  It's designed to be compatible with other firmwares. The big question is whether the sensitivity will be suitable. The x256 stepper drivers on the Duet give low vibration levels, allowing the sensitivity to be set quite high without vibration from the motors causing false triggering. This might not be the case if you use stepper drivers with lower microstepping.

                                  The sensitivity can be adjusted by sending a serial bit stream to the effector. So if support for sending that is added to other firmwares, any possible problems with vibration could be overcome.

                                  The effector also requires a short delay between the end of a travel move and the start of a probing move, however I understand there are versions of most firmwares with this facility now.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    tomasf
                                    last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 07:47

                                    This all looks fantastic. Can’t wait to order!

                                    1. What’s the thickness of the carriage adapters?
                                    2. Are some kind of technical drawings of the effector available (mainly for hole positioning), so I can make an adapter for my hotend?

                                    Thanks

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                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 08:24

                                      1. 2mm

                                      2. I'll ask Tony to do some.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        jannisj
                                        last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 08:37

                                        @Dougal1957:

                                        I hav'nt included the part fan as I use the Berdair system

                                        How did you mount the berd air to the pcb effector?

                                        Thinking of getting it myself

                                        -Jannis

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                                          Rommie
                                          last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 08:48

                                          It is done by an adapter Doug has made up, I'm sure he will either make you one or share the .stl if you ask him.

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