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    • jens55undefined
      jens55 @matt3o
      last edited by

      @matt3o, I don't know what else to suggest. From my end it sounds as if the board is fine and the issue is in the config file but as you say, it works if configured to run the heaters on the Duet.
      Sorry ....

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      • matt3oundefined
        matt3o @jens55
        last edited by

        @jens55 thanks for your help anyway, really appreciated it. I'll do some more testing but I'm out of ideas

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        • engikeneerundefined
          engikeneer @matt3o
          last edited by

          @matt3o what happens if you take the sd card out of the Duet, then power it all up? That way you know the config is not doing anything.
          Are the outputs shorted when you don't power on the Duet & Duex? I wonder if the resistance measurement is interfering with things...
          Also, what happens if you actually connect a heater to each of the outputs? Do they get hot or does the board blow fuse? Guessing it will already be blowing the fuse if it's actually shorted on the board.

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          Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
          i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Please post your config.

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            • matt3oundefined
              matt3o @Phaedrux
              last edited by matt3o

              @phaedrux sure thing

              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; General preferences
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              
              G90                                                       ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83                                                       ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"Agony"                                            ; set printer name
              
              M552 S1                                                   ; enable network
              M586 P0 S1                                                ; enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S0                                                ; disable FTP
              M586 P2 S0                                                ; disable Telnet
              
              
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; Drives
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              
              M569 P2 S1                                                ; X1 (Z stepper)
              M569 P1 S0                                                ; X2 (Y stepper)
              M569 P0 S0                                                ; Y1 (X stepper)
              M569 P3 S1                                                ; Y2 (E0 stepper)
              M569 P4 S1                                                ; Z1 (E1 stepper)
              M569 P5 S1                                                ; Z2 (E2 stepper DEX)
              M569 P6 S1                                                ; Z3 (E3 stepper DEX)
              M569 P7 S1                                                ; Extruder1 (E4 stepper DEX)
              
              M584 X2:1 Y0:3 Z4:5:6 E7                                  ; set drive mapping
              
              M906 X1300 Y1300 Z1300 E500 I40                           ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                                   ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z1600.00 E698                         ; set steps per mm
              M84 S30                                                   ; Set idle timeout
              
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00                       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E7200.00                 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z20.00 E600.00                     ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              
              
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; Axis Limits
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                          ; set axis minima
              M208 X380 Y385 Z350 S0                                    ; set axis maxima
              
              ; Leadscrews position
              M671 X368.5:-21.5:173.5 Y341.85:341.85:1.85 S20
              
              ; Endstops
              M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                       ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
              M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                                       ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
              M574 Z1 S2                                                ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
              
              ; Z-Probe
              M558 P5 C"^zstop" H5 F120 T6000 A3                        ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P500 X-5.85 Y33 Z3.85                                 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
              M557 X20:370 Y20:370 S50                                  ; define mesh grid
              
              
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; Heaters
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              
              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138            ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 Q10                                 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 B0 R0.724 C695.9 D3.76 S0.80                      ; auto-tune
              M140 H0                                                   ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S120                                              ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M308 S1 P"e4temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                      ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 B0 R2.573 C190.5:106.0 D4.28 S1.00                ; auto-tune
              M143 H1 S350                                              ; set temperature limit
              
              
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; Fans
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              
              M950 F0 C"duex.fan3" Q500                                  ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S0 H-1                                            ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M950 F1 C"duex.fan4" Q500                                      ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                         ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
              
              
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; Tools
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              M563 P0 S"Mosquito" D0 H1 F0                               ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                           ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0                                              ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              
              
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              ; Closing
              ; --------------------------------------------------
              M593 F48 ; input shaper
              T0                                             ; select tool
              

              it's configured with the heater on the duet2, all I have to do to make it fail is to use any duex heater name like (duex.e2heat)

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by Phaedrux

                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_Pin_names_for_Duet_2_WiFi_Ethernet

                Notice how the Duex heater pins are inverted in the listing.

                exp.heater3, exp.8, !duex.e2heat, !duex.pwm1
                exp.heater4, exp.13, !duex.e3heat, !duex.pwm2
                exp.heater5, exp.18, !duex.e4heat, !duex.pwm3
                exp.heater6, exp.23, !duex.e5heat, !duex.pwm4
                exp.heater7, exp.31, !duex.e6heat, !duex.pwm5
                

                So try using: !duex.e2heat

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55 @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux said in all duex heaters shorted...:

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_Pin_names_for_Duet_2_WiFi_Ethernet

                  Notice how the Duex heater pins are inverted in the listing.

                  exp.heater3, exp.8, !duex.e2heat, !duex.pwm1
                  exp.heater4, exp.13, !duex.e3heat, !duex.pwm2
                  exp.heater5, exp.18, !duex.e4heat, !duex.pwm3
                  exp.heater6, exp.23, !duex.e5heat, !duex.pwm4
                  exp.heater7, exp.31, !duex.e6heat, !duex.pwm5
                  

                  So try using: !duex.e2heat

                  You mean to say duex.e2heat (no bang) ?

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                  • matt3oundefined
                    matt3o @jens55
                    last edited by

                    I'm lost, it's inverted so it should not have the " ! ", right?

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                    • jens55undefined
                      jens55 @matt3o
                      last edited by

                      @matt3o, that is my interpretation .... but then I am no expert on config.g .....

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                      • SIamundefined
                        SIam @jens55
                        last edited by SIam

                        @jens55

                        Example:
                        
                        !fan2
                        
                        This means the pin labelled FAN2 on the Duet, but with the drive signal inverted.
                        

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @matt3o
                          last edited by

                          @matt3o said in all duex heaters shorted...:

                          I'm lost, it's inverted so it should not have the " ! ", right?

                          Some of the Duex signals are pre-inverted by the connection to the Duex, so to use the pin names, you need to add the ! to invert them again.

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                          • matt3oundefined
                            matt3o @Phaedrux
                            last edited by matt3o

                            @Phaedrux okay, the behavior was too erratic, I took the time to re-wire everything. On both the duet and duex. What drove me off is that all heaters were shorted when this started happening.

                            I use CAT6 wires for all not power hungry connections. I realized that they are convenient but also not easy to peel and crimp. They are just one stiff strand of wire. When you peel or crimp they tend to weaken in one tiny spot and break. Everything seems fine at the beginning but they eventually fail if damaged.

                            Now I've been very careful when peeling and I loosened the crimping tool so it applies less force.

                            I believe that was the problem. Everything seems to be working now. BTW, it works without the ! in the heater name. That part is a bit confusing in the doc... well at least for a total noob like me.

                            Thanks everybody for the help... I hope this is fixed...

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Let us know how it goes.

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                              • matt3oundefined
                                matt3o @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                I think I got the heater naming....

                                exp.heater3 is an alias on !duex.e2heat (note the !). So to invert it you either use !exp.heater3 with an ! or duex.e2heat without it. At least this is my interpretation...

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Multiple names on a line are aliases for a single pin. Some pins (primarily heater pins) have an inversion between the processor and the corresponding output, RRF3 will automatically allow for this inversion. These pins are marked with a * after the pin name in the list below. For legacy reasons some Duex pins are inverted or not, depending on the name/alias used to access them. This is indicated with a ! in front of the pin name in the sable below. e.g. exp.heater3 is the same pin as !duex.e2heat the ! indicates that the logic of the pin is inverted when referred to as "duex.e2heat"

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