Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Z offset on Inductive sensors

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
    Tuning and tweaking
    4
    21
    947
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @Tinchus
      last edited by

      @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:

      M913 Z30

      Are you maybe missing steps occasionally from reducing the z motor current too much?

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

      Tinchusundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Tinchusundefined
        Tinchus @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @phaedrux the current reduction is only for the probing step, then current is retored to 100%
        Also, Im using 30% but I hardly can stop the bed using my hand at that power. Both motors have a really strong arm. I did test and Im at risk of loosing steps at 20 %. So it is somehow not probable that im loosing steps at 30%.

        Still I did te test at 100% and the problem remains.

        fcwiltundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Can you post an image of what your mesh heightmap looks like displayed in DWC?

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

          Tinchusundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @Tinchus
            last edited by

            @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:

            the current reduction is only for the probing step, then current is retored to 100%

            Out of curiosity why do you reduce the current?

            Thanks.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

            Tinchusundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Tinchusundefined
              Tinchus @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt because I planned the printer to have eough power to have all the build plate full of print, and since it is a big volumen, theoretically I can have like 15 kgs if I print metal. So Z motors have enough power to move that mass.
              BUT, if something goes wrong, the also have the power to destroy my hotenfd and bend the bed if the printhead crash against the bed at full powwer. By reducing to 30% while homing, if something goes wrong, they will start to loose steps before bending my bed.

              fcwiltundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @Tinchus
                last edited by

                @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:
                So Z motors have enough power to move that mass.

                BUT, if something goes wrong, the also have the power to destroy my hotenfd and bend the bed

                Wow.

                What steppers are you using?

                Thanks.

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Tinchusundefined
                  Tinchus @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux This is just from the oven: heighmap with print chamber at 120 degrees celsius:

                  bed.png

                  fcwiltundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @Tinchus
                    last edited by

                    @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:

                    This is just from the oven: heighmap with print chamber at 120 degrees celsius:

                    bed.png

                    That is not good.

                    But it does make me feel better about mine. 😉

                    At what XY point are you setting the Z=0 datum with G30 prior to creating the heightmap?

                    Thanks.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      That's quite a lot of tilt. On the bright side it looks like the surface itself is mostly flat. Is there anyway you can square the bed and gantry a bit better?

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                      Tinchusundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • Tinchusundefined
                        Tinchus @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux What you are looking is the normal deformation an aluinium bed will have under 120 degrees celsius + yes there is some tilt to the front.

                        Phaedruxundefined fcwiltundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @Tinchus
                          last edited by

                          @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:

                          yes there is some tilt to the front.

                          07000efb-f9dd-47e8-8cb9-0dc1c109edd8-image.png

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @Tinchus
                            last edited by

                            @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:

                            @phaedrux What you are looking is the normal deformation an aluinium bed will have under 120 degrees celsius + yes there is some tilt to the front.

                            If that is "normal" for your setup I think you need to change the design - that is a lot of tilt - you are talking about 7 to 14 layers of compensation required.

                            And the nozzle-to-bed relationship will likely have a negative effect on print quality.

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

                            Tinchusundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Tinchusundefined
                              Tinchus @fcwilt
                              last edited by

                              @fcwilt You are loosing the focus: compensation is working OK. The problem is the Z offset reported, is not realistic.

                              fcwiltundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Try this, when measuring your G30 S-1 after touching down your nozzle to the bed, job the probe so that it's over that same point. If there is enough tilt there will be a difference in height between where the nozzle is and the probe is. Just like the triangle formed by the ski jumper leaving the ramp.

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @Tinchus
                                  last edited by

                                  @tinchus said in Z offset on Inductive sensors:

                                  @fcwilt You are loosing the focus: compensation is working OK. The problem is the Z offset reported, is not realistic.

                                  What do you mean by realistic?

                                  It's accurate so isn't that "real"?

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • First post
                                    Last post
                                  Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA