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    A Former User @gloomyandy
    last edited by 28 Aug 2021, 16:34

    @gloomyandy said in How to make Prusa Slicer work:

    @the_dragonlord How did you tune your extruder steps/mm set in config.g? If it involved something that used your slicer you may have in effect tuned for that. What value do you have set for steps/mm in your config.g file and what extruder are you using?

    415 step/mm, original bondtech BMG

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      gloomyandy @A Former User
      last edited by 28 Aug 2021, 16:39

      @the_dragonlord Assuming that has a standard 1.8 degree stepper (does it?), that sounds fine.

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        A Former User @gloomyandy
        last edited by 28 Aug 2021, 16:40

        @gloomyandy said in How to make Prusa Slicer work:

        @the_dragonlord Assuming that has a standard 1.8 degree stepper (does it?), that sounds fine.

        it sound because it is fine 😊 with other slicers I have no problems

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 28 Aug 2021, 18:56

          Is the first layer height the same? Same width and flow rate?

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            engikeneer @A Former User
            last edited by 28 Aug 2021, 21:27

            @the_dragonlord I've used PS for years with issues so am slightly perplexed by your issue!

            One thought - are the filament/printer/print profiles that you're editing the ones that PS is using to slice the file? I.E. Do these:
            0ffc7ef2-16b8-4b61-9067-e43e90d5bf4f-image.png

            Match these:
            df99b43b-bdf8-4f41-a5d0-3d1b1ea2084f-image.png

            Could simply be that you're actualy slicing with one of the default 2.85mm profiles?

            Failing that, if you can export your config from PS (File, Export, Export config), post it here and I can try it on mine to see what's up. Might need to rename the filetype to .txt to upload it to the forum

            E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
            Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
            i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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              A Former User @Phaedrux
              last edited by 29 Aug 2021, 05:45

              @phaedrux said in How to make Prusa Slicer work:

              Is the first layer height the same? Same width and flow rate?

              yes

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                A Former User @engikeneer
                last edited by A Former User 29 Aug 2021, 05:46

                @engikeneer said in How to make Prusa Slicer work:

                @the_dragonlord I've used PS for years with issues so am slightly perplexed by your issue!

                One thought - are the filament/printer/print profiles that you're editing the ones that PS is using to slice the file? I.E. Do these:
                0ffc7ef2-16b8-4b61-9067-e43e90d5bf4f-image.png

                Match these:
                df99b43b-bdf8-4f41-a5d0-3d1b1ea2084f-image.png

                Could simply be that you're actualy slicing with one of the default 2.85mm profiles?

                Failing that, if you can export your config from PS (File, Export, Export config), post it here and I can try it on mine to see what's up. Might need to rename the filetype to .txt to upload it to the forum

                no, it's not my case, the profiles, unfortunately, are correct. Here's my config fileconfig.ini.txt

                Thanks!

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                  engikeneer @A Former User
                  last edited by 29 Aug 2021, 07:11

                  @the_dragonlord I think I've found some of your issue. Your first layer extrusion width is set to 120%, so over a 0.24mm first layer height, you only get 0.288mm width lines for your first layer. Personally, I set all these as widths in mm so I know what I'm getting even if I change the layer height.

                  d84fe953-38fa-4b27-a166-5ec17578b860-image.png

                  You can see this if you look at the sliced line widths on the plater. Looks like the brim and infil are affected, but the external perimeter is slicing at 0.4mm which you specified.

                  af52fac8-a2fa-4317-94c6-ddb4d5ceef15-image.png

                  The other thing I noticed is that you are using absolute extrusion. General advice is to use relative extrusion because you may lose accuracy in long prints. Note that you've got M92 in your custom start code there too!

                  E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                  Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                  i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                    A Former User @engikeneer
                    last edited by 29 Aug 2021, 12:12

                    @engikeneer said in How to make Prusa Slicer work:

                    @the_dragonlord I think I've found some of your issue. Your first layer extrusion width is set to 120%, so over a 0.24mm first layer height, you only get 0.288mm width lines for your first layer. Personally, I set all these as widths in mm so I know what I'm getting even if I change the layer height.

                    d84fe953-38fa-4b27-a166-5ec17578b860-image.png

                    You can see this if you look at the sliced line widths on the plater. Looks like the brim and infil are affected, but the external perimeter is slicing at 0.4mm which you specified.

                    af52fac8-a2fa-4317-94c6-ddb4d5ceef15-image.png

                    The other thing I noticed is that you are using absolute extrusion. General advice is to use relative extrusion because you may lose accuracy in long prints. Note that you've got M92 in your custom start code there too!

                    excellent, thanks! i'll try your suggestions when I'll return home! what is your setting for the first layer extrusion width?

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                      achrn @engikeneer
                      last edited by 29 Aug 2021, 13:31

                      @engikeneer said in How to make Prusa Slicer work:

                      The other thing I noticed is that you are using absolute extrusion. General advice is to use relative extrusion because you may lose accuracy in long prints. Note that you've got M92 in your custom start code there too!

                      I thought that, and I would have sworn that's what at least one of the files extracts showed the first time I looked at them, but it's not what they show the second time I looked (and now). This is clearly not absolute extrusion:

                      ;LAYER_CHANGE
                      ;Z:0.44
                      ;HEIGHT:0.2
                      M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
                      G1 Z0.440 F7200.000
                      G10 S205 ; set temperature
                      G1 X160.200 Y169.800
                      ;TYPE:External perimeter
                      ;WIDTH:0.4
                      G1 F900.000
                      G1 X160.200 Y160.200 E0.28504
                      G1 X169.800 Y160.200 E0.28504
                      M73 P15 R2
                      G1 X169.800 Y169.800 E0.28504
                      G1 X160.260 Y169.800 E0.28325
                      G1 E-3.00000 F2400.000

                      otherwise there's no extrusion on two of those sides, and retraction on the fourth.

                      So now I'm wondering if the forum is occasionally showing a differnet file to reasders!

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                        engikeneer @A Former User
                        last edited by engikeneer 29 Aug 2021, 19:28

                        @the_dragonlord I think 0.45mm for a 0.35mm nozzle, but I'm not 100% sure as I'm out today. Typically I'd do nozzle width +30-40% for first layer but I've never really played too much attention to it tbh...

                        Also @achrn makes a good point. In your first post you had relative extrusion selected but had an M82 in you custom start code which may have overridden things and caused your issue.

                        Edit: back home now and here are the setting I used to use for my 0.4mm nozzle (though I've been using a 0.35mm for a while now). They work okay for me, but not done any calibration etc - main thing is that the support material is less than nozzle dia so that it is weaker, all the others are larger

                        7a9705a2-d838-4dc0-85cf-a573af283019-image.png

                        E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                        Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                        i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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