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Carriage Adapter Suggestion for Rostock Max

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    MiR
    last edited by 9 Dec 2017, 18:10 12 Sept 2017, 18:10

    I designed an adapter in Fusion360, perhaps it is usefull for others:

    http://a360.co/2f2man2

    There's no need to change anything on the effector, the screw holes for the ball-heads are used to connect to the adapter

    Michael

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      T3P3Tony administrators
      last edited by 12 Sept 2017, 20:49

      Hi Micheal

      Thanks for sharing your design. For the carriages adaptors (not the effector) I was looking into adding two more holes so that an further adaptor would not be needed for the rostock max.

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        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by 12 Sept 2017, 20:50

        @PlasticMetal:

        Per the files on github, the carriage ball joint holes are 24.125mm center-to-center, and 6.35mm inner diameter. They use a #4 screw to mount to the bosses.

        Pondering this a bit, would it be best to have the adapter plate holes large enough to pass over the bosses? Otherwise the barbell arms will be able to shift around.

        Edit: I got off track there, thinking of how to mount the ball joint arms (with barbells) to the adapter plates, rather than the OP's question of mounting mag arms to the SeeMeCNC carriages.

        https://github.com/seemecnc/RostockMAXv2/tree/master/CAD_FILES

        The barbells are 70855 Carriage Ball Joints; mounting side of the carriage is 70852 Carriage Inner.

        Thats helpful, any idea of the tolerances on these Rostock injection molded carriages. I want to make the holes as tight fit as possible to reduce any miss alignment

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          Sakey
          last edited by 9 Dec 2017, 21:41 12 Sept 2017, 21:27

          I've just printed some adaptors for the Rostock. I'll upload when I'm at my pc.

          Download the STL:

          https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxtr4ocyxEMsMks0bUxEay1YYXc

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            T3P3Tony administrators
            last edited by 12 Sept 2017, 22:02

            Cheers!

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 06:38

              @Sakey:

              I've just printed some adaptors for the Rostock. I'll upload when I'm at my pc.

              https://preview.ibb.co/gE2S4F/DSC_0895.jpg

              Download the STL:

              https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxtr4ocyxEMsMks0bUxEay1YYXc

              Would it be sufficient to drill two additional holes in the PCB, one either side of the centre?

              Can you give us the spacing between the holes, and the size of the screw that goes through them?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                Sakey
                last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 07:51

                I'll measure up when I get home tonight but I think its a 3mm screw with a flange. It will work drilling two holes but I don't know just how stable it will be.

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 09:01

                  Thanks. Why might drilling two holes be less stable?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    Dougal1957
                    last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 09:09

                    @dc42:

                    Thanks. Why might drilling two holes be less stable?

                    Looking at the photos I think that they use a spigot for the Barbell to locate on and then the screws just to hold in in place. I think with just the 2 mounting screws in the middle whether the carriage would have a tendency to rock causing hight variations.

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                      Sakey
                      last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 13:11

                      @dc42:

                      Thanks. Why might drilling two holes be less stable?

                      It might have the potential to rock as mentioned as Its only secured in 1 plane. Just a passing thought really. I'm pretty sure it will be OK.

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                        PlasticMetal
                        last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 19:24

                        The holes could be large enough to fit over the bosses, and a small block could be printed to fit over the bosses. It would be tall enough to just slightly raise above the bosses with the adapter plate in place, so that the screws (with washer) would sandwich the adapter plate in place.

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                          Dougal1957
                          last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 19:32

                          yes I think that would work and in fact the adaptor plate could be quite large so as to stabilise it all

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                            Sakey
                            last edited by 13 Sept 2017, 20:27

                            So Dimensions are as follows,

                            Holes are 22mm centre to centre
                            Spigot is 6.32mm
                            The screw holding it is a 3mm self tapping screw with 8mm washer on

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                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by 14 Sept 2017, 05:45

                              So we should add two 6.32mm holes spaced 22mm apart horizontally. Can someone else confirm these dimensions? We'd like to get a good fit so that the carriage adaptor is horizontal automatically.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                T3P3Tony administrators
                                last edited by 14 Sept 2017, 09:27

                                I downloaded the Model file that PlasticMetal linked to and confirmed the dimensions:

                                24.125mm center-to-center, and 6.35mm inner diameter

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                                  TwoTone
                                  last edited by 14 Sept 2017, 19:28

                                  @saffi:

                                  I'm not sure if these are all the same spacing, but the ball cup axle fits on two screws mounted to the carriage.

                                  First two photos are the version 3 Rostock (the trick laser carriage as well) and the last is perhaps the v2 that didn't use ball cup joints.

                                  https://imgur.com/8iOzxYZ.jpg
                                  https://imgur.com/WE6CjT0.jpg
                                  https://imgur.com/KZxVUOv.jpg

                                  Just a correction as the later V2 came with the upgraded ball cup arms.

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