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    • gloomyandyundefined
      gloomyandy @Dr_Ju_Ju
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      @dr_ju_ju The schematic for the Duet3 provides details of the pins in use at the duet end of things, it should be pretty straight forward to project them onto the rPi connector: https://github.com/Duet3D/Duet3-Mainboard-6HC/blob/master/Duet3_Mainboard_v1.01/Duet3_MB_Schematic_v1.01.pdf

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      • rjenkinsgbundefined
        rjenkinsgb @Dr_Ju_Ju
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        @dr_ju_ju said in Connection between Duet 3 6HC and SBC (Pi4):

        The use of a splitter is limited, as I've fitted a full heatsink to Pi as I've had past issues with overheating .

        You will almost certainly need a vertical extender then; I use full heatsink cases on my Pi's and the IDC connector will not fit directly, it needs an extended header.

        Be sure to get one that has the proper square pins, many economy ones have thin pins that do not work well with other connectors.

        You could stack a splitter on the extender?

        Robert J.

        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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        • Dr_Ju_Juundefined
          Dr_Ju_Ju @gloomyandy
          last edited by

          @gloomyandy yep, the link shown the circuit diagram of the Duet 3, but it does NOT detail the required connections between it, and a Pi4.

          Also, I may well replace the Pi with either an Odroid/Pine64 device, so want what is actually required.

          Julian,

          Old goat, learning new things….

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          • chrishammundefined
            chrishamm administrators @Dr_Ju_Ju
            last edited by chrishamm

            @dr_ju_ju I've been using a GPIO shield for my Pi so I can use a Duet 3 with a Pi touchscreen:

            6e064fe8-4646-49ef-8f37-9ed0aa0afcbc-image.png

            For SBC mode you need:

            • +3.3V
            • GND
            • SPI0 (with CE0)
            • GPIO25

            You could use SPI1 instead of SPI0 or another GPIO pin instead of GPIO25, but that would require extra configuration steps on the Pi and in /opt/dsf/conf/config.json.

            Duet software engineer

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            • gloomyandyundefined
              gloomyandy @Dr_Ju_Ju
              last edited by gloomyandy

              @dr_ju_ju Page three of the schematic shows the connections to the SBC connector (and which pins within that connector are in use). Since this then connects to a simple ribbon cable and then to the rPi header it is relatively easy to work out the rPi connections. What is it that you think is missing? Other than the 5V supply (which needs to be provided to the rPi in some way), I'd say that all of them are required. You may be able to reduce the number of ground connections (or possibly use alternate ground pins on the SBC connector) but I'd be cautious about doing this as you may find doing so introduces noise problems.

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              • achrnundefined
                achrn
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                The wiring diagram on teh dozuki lists the pins in the connector, which I find easier to lay my hands on than the schematic.
                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Mainboard_6HC_Wiring_Diagram

                It lists the 3.3V connected.

                What I've done for using other connections for other things (including injecting 5V to teh Pi) is to use a stacking header and a little bit of tri-pad stripboardbetween teh ribbon and the pi.

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                • Dr_Ju_Juundefined
                  Dr_Ju_Ju @chrishamm
                  last edited by

                  @chrishamm Unfortunately the case I'm using works well, but severely limits access to the GPIO connector, i.e. it doesn't allow the use of a standard ribbon connector

                  Pi4.jpg

                  Julian,

                  Old goat, learning new things….

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                  • achrnundefined
                    achrn @Dr_Ju_Ju
                    last edited by

                    @dr_ju_ju said in Connection between Duet 3 6HC and SBC (Pi4):

                    it doesn't allow the use of a standard ribbon connector

                    Is it just the corners? It looks like a few minutes with a file would make it fit...

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                    • Dr_Ju_Juundefined
                      Dr_Ju_Ju @achrn
                      last edited by

                      @achrn Nah, its not just the inner corners, but the depth, and amount of material that is used for the mounting screws etc....

                      Julian,

                      Old goat, learning new things….

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                      • achrnundefined
                        achrn @Dr_Ju_Ju
                        last edited by

                        @dr_ju_ju That's a shame (but I did kind of think if it was that simple you'd have done it already).

                        The Pi4 has better thermal and power management than previous Pis and consensus seems to be it actually tends to have fewer heat problems than less powerful models. Mine driving a MB6HC has been entirely happy with one of these: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-heatsink but I understand you might want to stick with what is proven in your setup.

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                        • rjenkinsgbundefined
                          rjenkinsgb @Dr_Ju_Ju
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                          @dr_ju_ju said in Connection between Duet 3 6HC and SBC (Pi4):

                          Unfortunately the case I'm using works well, but severely limits access to the GPIO connector, i.e. it doesn't allow the use of a standard ribbon connector

                          I use the same (or very similar) heatsink assemblies - they are fine with an extender added, eg. a header socket with wire-wrap style pins the IDC connector fits to.

                          The ones I found that have the proper square pins but still cheap were "Geekworm" 2*20 Pin female header kits
                          https://geekworm.com/products/geekworm-raspberry-pi-2x20-40-pin-gpio-stacking-header-extender-kit

                          They are available on Amazon etc.

                          Pi_Duet_6HC.jpg

                          Pi_Header.jpg

                          Robert J.

                          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                          • Dr_Ju_Juundefined
                            Dr_Ju_Ju @rjenkinsgb
                            last edited by

                            @rjenkinsgb I have some of those on order, but they appear to be lost in the xmas postal rush 😞

                            BTW, your picture still shows that you are using the ribbon cable, which I do not want to use, so I still need what actually needs to be connected ??

                            Julian,

                            Old goat, learning new things….

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                            • rjenkinsgbundefined
                              rjenkinsgb @Dr_Ju_Ju
                              last edited by rjenkinsgb

                              @dr_ju_ju said in Connection between Duet 3 6HC and SBC (Pi4):

                              Unfortunately the case I'm using works well, but severely limits access to the GPIO connector, i.e. it doesn't allow the use of a standard ribbon connector

                              ????? I was responding to that post.

                              The required connections have already been linked in this thread, two or three times.

                              eg.
                              https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/33DEuEJZXP16vLbF.huge

                              Robert J.

                              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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