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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      It is documented in the upgrade notes that 1.19 series firmware needs a M305 command for every temperature sensor in use. But you should not need to include the channel in that command, because each heater channel defaults to using its own thermistor.

      What sort of printer do you have: a simple dual nozzle printer, IDEX, or something else?

      Few people use the tpre files. When tpre is run, no tool is selected, which limits what you can do in them. Most people use just tfree and tpost files.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • MrTundefined
        MrT
        last edited by

        Dear dc42

        I always had a m305 for the sensors , just I noticed after the update the bed temperature was 2000 i checked the cabling and other , after some time I just added the channel and it started working again.

        The printer I have is a ultimate clone that I have build and milled my self ,
        HW
        magnetic tool change with 2 heads and 2 parking spaces
        stepper 0.9 ,
        all moving parts from Misumi
        e3d and titans
        duetwifi and dc42 ir prob

        the issue at hand is not located in the tfree and or tpre or tpost

        I get the same problem when i do the tool change from the slicer extruder start / extruder end or even manually just by clicking on the tool in the duetwifi web interface changing from standby to active from tool0 to tool1

        this issue is not happening on the 1.18.2

        Thanks and best regards
        Manuel Topiol

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        • MrTundefined
          MrT
          last edited by

          T3p3tony good day

          By any chance have you been able to reproduce my issue

          Best regards
          Manuel

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          • MrTundefined
            MrT
            last edited by

            Friendly bump

            Best regards
            Manuel

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators
              last edited by

              I am not at home this weekend, I will try and have a look early in the week. I have an idex machine which is not the same but i might be able to work it out.

              Am I correct in understanding that the issue is not the movement in any of the tool change macros? The moves to park and pickup the new head work correctly the only issue is when you select T1, T0 remains activated in firmware?

              www.duet3d.com

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              • MrTundefined
                MrT
                last edited by

                Good day

                yes your assumption is correct

                Thanks for the help
                Best Regards
                Manuel

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                • MrTundefined
                  MrT
                  last edited by

                  Dear good night

                  Had a chance to look at my issue ?

                  Thanks
                  Best regards
                  Manuel Topiol

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators
                    last edited by

                    Hi, I have tested tool changes using an IDEX machine with the following setup:
                    Firmware Version: 1.19.2 (2017-09-01)
                    WiFi Server Version: 1.19.2
                    Web Interface Version: 1.19

                    Using your Tpre,Tfree files, modified only slightly so they do not crash the heads on my IDEX, i can't reproduce the problem.

                    Starting with T0 selected, I enter T1, the movements associated with Tfree0 occur, then the ones in Tpre1. With T1 selected I enter T0, the movements associated with Tfree1 occure, the Tpre0.
                    The selected hotend (as shown in DWC) changes as commanded.

                    Things I am doing differently from you:

                    1. Using an Idex printer so X mapping is different from T0 and T1
                    2. Homing in my Tpre/TFree files to protect the two heads from crashing.

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                    • MrTundefined
                      MrT
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for the reply

                      So from where could this problem come from ?
                      I am out of idea , and I can't understand why with 1.18.2 it's working and not with 1.19.2 ,I changed nothing to my setup 😞

                      Best regards
                      Manuel

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Please post your config.g file, and confirm that you have no tpost0.g or tpost1.g file.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • MrTundefined
                          MrT
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for the reply

                          The problem is not associated with movements generated by the tpost tpre and three, the problem is with the tool active and standby

                          Let's say when I start the printer I home x y and z then I click on tool0 it goes and collects tool0 no problem there ,the tool is loaded and active

                          When I click again on tool0 it goes to unload and parks the tool0 and put the tool in standby

                          Now when I go and click on tool1 it goes as expected loading tool1 but after it has collected tool1 it puts tool1 in standby and tool0 as active but the tool1 is still loaded

                          The result is the same for the 3 test I have made , 1 just by clicking on the web use interface, 2 by sending gcode to the printer , or 3 adding gcode in the slicer to deal with the tool changed , there is no scenario where I can keep my tool1 active

                          it is definitively something to do with the firmware

                          So from where could this problem come from ?
                          I am out of idea , and I can't understand why with 1.18.2 it's working and not with 1.19.2 ,I changed nothing to my setup 😞

                          I really need some help on this issue

                          Thanks for your understanding

                          Best regards
                          Manuel

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators
                            last edited by

                            As David says please post your config.g and your T post files (if you have any)

                            www.duet3d.com

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                            • MrTundefined
                              MrT
                              last edited by

                              Dear Sorry was on my mobile did not see David's Post

                              please find her under the config file

                              M111 S0
                              G21
                              G90
                              M83
                              M555 P2
                              M208 X0 Y0 Z-1 S1
                              M208 X200 Y200 Z306 S0

                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X1 Z2 S0
                              M574 Y1 S0
                              M558 P1 X0 Y0 Z1 H3 F200 T6000
                              G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0.3
                              M557 X10:140 Y10:140 S20

                              ; Drives

                              M569 P0 S0
                              M569 P1 S0
                              M569 P2 S1
                              M569 P3 S1
                              M569 P4 S1
                              M350 X16 Y16 E16:16 I1
                              M350 Z16 I0
                              M92 X160 Y160 Z400 E837:837
                              M566 X400 Y400 Z15 E100:100
                              M203 X10000 Y10000 Z2400 E1500:1500
                              M201 X1200 Y1200 Z200 E3000:3000
                              M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1300 E1400:1400
                              M84 S0

                              ; Heaters
                              M143 H0 S110
                              M143 H1 S335
                              M143 H2 S265
                              M301 H0 S1.00 P10 I0.1 D200 T0.4 W180 B30
                              M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 X201
                              M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 X200
                              M305 P0 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R3750 X1

                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 D0 H1
                              G10 P0 X-19.92 Y-0.20 Z0.0
                              G10 P0 R0 S0
                              M563 P1 D1 H2
                              G10 P1 X19.8 Y0 Z-0.09
                              G10 P1 R0 S0

                              ; Network
                              M550 PMy printer
                              M552 S1 ;
                              M587########################
                              M586 P0 S1
                              M586 P1 S0
                              M586 P2 S0

                              ; Fans
                              M106 P2 S0.3 I0 F12 H-1
                              M106 P1 S1 I0 F100 H-1
                              M106 P0 S1 I0 F10 H-1

                              ; Custom settings are not configured

                              tfree0:
                              G90
                              M83
                              G91
                              G1 Z5 F6000
                              G90
                              G1 X-15 F6000
                              G1 Y180 F6000
                              G1 X30 F6000
                              G1 X70 F6000

                              tfree1
                              G90
                              M83
                              G91
                              G1 Z5 F6000
                              G90
                              G1 X195 Y50 F6000
                              G1 Y180 F6000
                              G1 X50 F6000
                              G1 Y50 F6000

                              tpre0
                              G90
                              M83
                              G0 X50 F6000
                              G1 Y180 F6000
                              G1 X5 F6000
                              G1 Y50 F6000

                              tpre1
                              G90
                              M83
                              G0 X50 F6000
                              G1 Y180 F6000
                              G1 X175 F6000
                              G1 Y50 F6000

                              thanks
                              Manuel Topiol

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                              • MrTundefined
                                MrT
                                last edited by

                                Friendly bump

                                Best regards
                                Manuel

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                                • MrTundefined
                                  MrT
                                  last edited by

                                  Dear dc42 & t3p3tony

                                  Did u have any chance to check on my issue , I am still Struggling with it , I can confirme that the issue is not related with the tfree tpre and tpost , if I disabled them and do the tool change movements via the slicer I get the same result the wrong tool is active when I switch to tool1

                                  In the hope of hearing from you

                                  Best regards
                                  Manuel Topiol

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                                  • MrTundefined
                                    MrT
                                    last edited by

                                    Gentle bump bump

                                    Regards
                                    Manuel

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      We're going to be busy with the TCT show for the next week, so feel free to remind us after that.

                                      Also please check whether this is a Duet Web Control bug, or whether the same bug occurs if you send the appropriate T commands directly. One of my machines exhibits an inability to select or deselect a tool using the Tool link in DWC 1.19, but it works fine if I send the appropriate T commands from the GCode Console.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • MrTundefined
                                        MrT
                                        last edited by

                                        Dear thanks for your reply
                                        with the t command I get the same result I have been trying every possible combinations with no success, I am supprized that no more people are experiencing the same problems , or maybe less people are using a tool change

                                        Ok i will recontacter you after your show , hope it goes well , good luck !!!

                                        Best regards
                                        Manuel Topiol

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                                        • number40fanundefined
                                          number40fan
                                          last edited by

                                          There were directions to roll back to 1.18 if you wanted to do that, just to confirm it is an update issue.

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                                          • MrTundefined
                                            MrT
                                            last edited by

                                            Good day

                                            Yes I did roll back the issue was gone , then I did the update again the issue was back , since then I am doing try and error to pin point where the issue is comming from.

                                            The steps I undertook where :
                                            1 ) tool change with a very basic gcode file just switchings from t0 to t1 to t0 to t1 with the tfree tpost tpre active
                                            2 )deactivated the tfree tpost tpre and did the tool change from within the slicer
                                            3 )tripel checked my config file and cabeling

                                            Issue stays the same what ever I do .the active tool remains t0 after loading t1
                                            Every test I did tend to let me think it's an update issue or some mistake on my part but it's not very likely I have my config info in a previous post maybe you could help me have a double check
                                            Best regards
                                            Manuel

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