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    MrT
    last edited by 9 Sept 2017, 08:27

    T3p3tony good day

    By any chance have you been able to reproduce my issue

    Best regards
    Manuel

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      MrT
      last edited by 10 Sept 2017, 07:37

      Friendly bump

      Best regards
      Manuel

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        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by 10 Sept 2017, 08:24

        I am not at home this weekend, I will try and have a look early in the week. I have an idex machine which is not the same but i might be able to work it out.

        Am I correct in understanding that the issue is not the movement in any of the tool change macros? The moves to park and pickup the new head work correctly the only issue is when you select T1, T0 remains activated in firmware?

        www.duet3d.com

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          MrT
          last edited by 10 Sept 2017, 09:53

          Good day

          yes your assumption is correct

          Thanks for the help
          Best Regards
          Manuel

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            MrT
            last edited by 14 Sept 2017, 20:51

            Dear good night

            Had a chance to look at my issue ?

            Thanks
            Best regards
            Manuel Topiol

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              T3P3Tony administrators
              last edited by 15 Sept 2017, 01:26

              Hi, I have tested tool changes using an IDEX machine with the following setup:
              Firmware Version: 1.19.2 (2017-09-01)
              WiFi Server Version: 1.19.2
              Web Interface Version: 1.19

              Using your Tpre,Tfree files, modified only slightly so they do not crash the heads on my IDEX, i can't reproduce the problem.

              Starting with T0 selected, I enter T1, the movements associated with Tfree0 occur, then the ones in Tpre1. With T1 selected I enter T0, the movements associated with Tfree1 occure, the Tpre0.
              The selected hotend (as shown in DWC) changes as commanded.

              Things I am doing differently from you:

              1. Using an Idex printer so X mapping is different from T0 and T1
              2. Homing in my Tpre/TFree files to protect the two heads from crashing.

              www.duet3d.com

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                MrT
                last edited by 15 Sept 2017, 06:44

                Thanks for the reply

                So from where could this problem come from ?
                I am out of idea , and I can't understand why with 1.18.2 it's working and not with 1.19.2 ,I changed nothing to my setup 😞

                Best regards
                Manuel

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 15 Sept 2017, 07:03

                  Please post your config.g file, and confirm that you have no tpost0.g or tpost1.g file.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    MrT
                    last edited by 15 Sept 2017, 08:32

                    Thanks for the reply

                    The problem is not associated with movements generated by the tpost tpre and three, the problem is with the tool active and standby

                    Let's say when I start the printer I home x y and z then I click on tool0 it goes and collects tool0 no problem there ,the tool is loaded and active

                    When I click again on tool0 it goes to unload and parks the tool0 and put the tool in standby

                    Now when I go and click on tool1 it goes as expected loading tool1 but after it has collected tool1 it puts tool1 in standby and tool0 as active but the tool1 is still loaded

                    The result is the same for the 3 test I have made , 1 just by clicking on the web use interface, 2 by sending gcode to the printer , or 3 adding gcode in the slicer to deal with the tool changed , there is no scenario where I can keep my tool1 active

                    it is definitively something to do with the firmware

                    So from where could this problem come from ?
                    I am out of idea , and I can't understand why with 1.18.2 it's working and not with 1.19.2 ,I changed nothing to my setup 😞

                    I really need some help on this issue

                    Thanks for your understanding

                    Best regards
                    Manuel

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                      T3P3Tony administrators
                      last edited by 15 Sept 2017, 09:59

                      As David says please post your config.g and your T post files (if you have any)

                      www.duet3d.com

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                        MrT
                        last edited by 15 Sept 2017, 12:52

                        Dear Sorry was on my mobile did not see David's Post

                        please find her under the config file

                        M111 S0
                        G21
                        G90
                        M83
                        M555 P2
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z-1 S1
                        M208 X200 Y200 Z306 S0

                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 Z2 S0
                        M574 Y1 S0
                        M558 P1 X0 Y0 Z1 H3 F200 T6000
                        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0.3
                        M557 X10:140 Y10:140 S20

                        ; Drives

                        M569 P0 S0
                        M569 P1 S0
                        M569 P2 S1
                        M569 P3 S1
                        M569 P4 S1
                        M350 X16 Y16 E16:16 I1
                        M350 Z16 I0
                        M92 X160 Y160 Z400 E837:837
                        M566 X400 Y400 Z15 E100:100
                        M203 X10000 Y10000 Z2400 E1500:1500
                        M201 X1200 Y1200 Z200 E3000:3000
                        M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1300 E1400:1400
                        M84 S0

                        ; Heaters
                        M143 H0 S110
                        M143 H1 S335
                        M143 H2 S265
                        M301 H0 S1.00 P10 I0.1 D200 T0.4 W180 B30
                        M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 X201
                        M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 X200
                        M305 P0 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R3750 X1

                        ; Tools
                        M563 P0 D0 H1
                        G10 P0 X-19.92 Y-0.20 Z0.0
                        G10 P0 R0 S0
                        M563 P1 D1 H2
                        G10 P1 X19.8 Y0 Z-0.09
                        G10 P1 R0 S0

                        ; Network
                        M550 PMy printer
                        M552 S1 ;
                        M587########################
                        M586 P0 S1
                        M586 P1 S0
                        M586 P2 S0

                        ; Fans
                        M106 P2 S0.3 I0 F12 H-1
                        M106 P1 S1 I0 F100 H-1
                        M106 P0 S1 I0 F10 H-1

                        ; Custom settings are not configured

                        tfree0:
                        G90
                        M83
                        G91
                        G1 Z5 F6000
                        G90
                        G1 X-15 F6000
                        G1 Y180 F6000
                        G1 X30 F6000
                        G1 X70 F6000

                        tfree1
                        G90
                        M83
                        G91
                        G1 Z5 F6000
                        G90
                        G1 X195 Y50 F6000
                        G1 Y180 F6000
                        G1 X50 F6000
                        G1 Y50 F6000

                        tpre0
                        G90
                        M83
                        G0 X50 F6000
                        G1 Y180 F6000
                        G1 X5 F6000
                        G1 Y50 F6000

                        tpre1
                        G90
                        M83
                        G0 X50 F6000
                        G1 Y180 F6000
                        G1 X175 F6000
                        G1 Y50 F6000

                        thanks
                        Manuel Topiol

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                          MrT
                          last edited by 19 Sept 2017, 10:22

                          Friendly bump

                          Best regards
                          Manuel

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                            MrT
                            last edited by 22 Sept 2017, 17:59

                            Dear dc42 & t3p3tony

                            Did u have any chance to check on my issue , I am still Struggling with it , I can confirme that the issue is not related with the tfree tpre and tpost , if I disabled them and do the tool change movements via the slicer I get the same result the wrong tool is active when I switch to tool1

                            In the hope of hearing from you

                            Best regards
                            Manuel Topiol

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                              MrT
                              last edited by 24 Sept 2017, 18:25

                              Gentle bump bump

                              Regards
                              Manuel

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                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by 24 Sept 2017, 18:30

                                We're going to be busy with the TCT show for the next week, so feel free to remind us after that.

                                Also please check whether this is a Duet Web Control bug, or whether the same bug occurs if you send the appropriate T commands directly. One of my machines exhibits an inability to select or deselect a tool using the Tool link in DWC 1.19, but it works fine if I send the appropriate T commands from the GCode Console.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  MrT
                                  last edited by 24 Sept 2017, 19:51

                                  Dear thanks for your reply
                                  with the t command I get the same result I have been trying every possible combinations with no success, I am supprized that no more people are experiencing the same problems , or maybe less people are using a tool change

                                  Ok i will recontacter you after your show , hope it goes well , good luck !!!

                                  Best regards
                                  Manuel Topiol

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                                    number40fan
                                    last edited by 24 Sept 2017, 20:47

                                    There were directions to roll back to 1.18 if you wanted to do that, just to confirm it is an update issue.

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                                      MrT
                                      last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 07:35

                                      Good day

                                      Yes I did roll back the issue was gone , then I did the update again the issue was back , since then I am doing try and error to pin point where the issue is comming from.

                                      The steps I undertook where :
                                      1 ) tool change with a very basic gcode file just switchings from t0 to t1 to t0 to t1 with the tfree tpost tpre active
                                      2 )deactivated the tfree tpost tpre and did the tool change from within the slicer
                                      3 )tripel checked my config file and cabeling

                                      Issue stays the same what ever I do .the active tool remains t0 after loading t1
                                      Every test I did tend to let me think it's an update issue or some mistake on my part but it's not very likely I have my config info in a previous post maybe you could help me have a double check
                                      Best regards
                                      Manuel

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                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 07:59

                                        Are you certain that Tool 0 stays active after you select Tool 1, and it isn't that DWC is mis-reporting it? If you send G10 P0 S0 then this should cool down tool 0 if it really is active, but do nothing if it isn't.

                                        You can remove the M587 command from config.g, it only needs to run once to save your access point details on the WiFi module.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          MrT
                                          last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 10:59

                                          Dear ,

                                          yes I am sure that it is not a reporting error from the web interface cause when I try to park t1 back the tool it's crashing with tool0 trying to park back tool0 with isn't loaded tool1 is

                                          Thanks
                                          Best regard
                                          Manuel

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