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    • zaptaundefined
      zapta @JoergS5
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      @joergs5 said in Large Format CoreXY?:

      There's a saying in german "wer billig kauft, kauft zweimal",

      There's a saying in english "perfect is the enemy of good" and the low cost Liberty ship are a prime example.

      Must be a cultural difference. 😉

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5 @zapta
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        @zapta said in Large Format CoreXY?:

        low cost Liberty ship

        Thanks for this, I didn't know this history detail yet.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @JoergS5
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          @joergs5 said in Large Format CoreXY?:

          There's a saying in german "wer billig kauft, kauft zweimal", which means when one buys cheap, you have to rebuy a second time.

          In english we have a slightly more quipey version: "Buy once, Cry once."

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @JoergS5
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            @joergs5 said in Large Format CoreXY?:

            @zapta said in Large Format CoreXY?:

            low cost Liberty ship

            Thanks for this, I didn't know this history detail yet.

            Liberty ships were a British concept adopted by the USA during to the second world war. They were lightly armed merchant ships of a simply design which could be mass produced and some 3000 were built during those war years. Some 200 or so were sunk during the hostilities but only 2 remain today.

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            • JoergS5undefined
              JoergS5 @deckingman
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              @deckingman thank you Ian, yesterday my brain extension (read: wikipedia) already helped me to update my short time memory 🙂 It is always interesting to learn from history!

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              • michaelr123undefined
                michaelr123 @JoergS5
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                @joergs5

                seeing as I have a bunch of large machine builders here, any recommendations for grounding/shielding/random shorts to the board and resetting it?

                See some of my other posts, but I'm struggling with some sort of an electrical issue that is causing the board to reset. I've tried grounding steppers and the hotends, but even with a brand new duet 3 board I'm still seeing the same issue.

                My next thought is to try shielded cables for the steppers and all wires running out the machine. The cables are maybe a meter long. Any ideas?

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5 @michaelr123
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                  • jackantubisundefined
                    jackantubis @michaelr123
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                    @michaelr123 Hi my point of view of "big" printers:
                    The limit for voron or other printers design is the 2020 extrusion toooooo weak.
                    Use a fu**king big and heavy frame 🙂 is mandatory (even for small printers) use 4040 extrusion filled with resin+concrete and a lot of them.
                    In my presious builds I added a lot of extrusions to increase the rigidity of my frames and it was far better and the price stay low.
                    More extrusion could help to make and keep the frame square (with precise extrusion cuttings) and avoid twisting when you move it.
                    More weight -> less vibrations.
                    For example I modified the JUBILEE design to fit 2040 extrusion filled with steel and silicone to gain a lot of weight and reducing vibrations: https://www.lesimprimantes3d.fr/forum/topic/43356-mon-imprimante-3d-jubilee-toolchanger-protocreation/?_fromLogin=1#replyForm
                    With big frame you can more easily use big motors/belts/gantry/rails with less problem.

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                    • michaelr123undefined
                      michaelr123 @jackantubis
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                      @jackantubis

                      I haven't even posted any pictures of my machine to this thread!

                      its a 400x800 print space system built around the biggest sheet of glass I could get at lowes 🙂

                      It's been a pet project for years now as I slowly redesign and spend money improving it. I think the gantry system is is ok shape, the electronics are now top notch with the Duet 3 😉 the Z-axis definitely needs to be redone at some point. I reused an old v-rail setup I had on a leadscrew printer that I built a long time ago. The point of this system is to be able to print 30" or so parts for fiber glass molds, furniture, and just big parts in general out of mostly PETG and PLA, nothing crazy on the materials front, yet...

                      IMG_0692.JPG
                      Link of it running a dual part cooling fan setup to really crank up the speed on small parts!
                      https://imgur.com/a/YCJaCZ9

                      I ordered some flexible, shielded cable from zyltech, so I'm going to move everything to that style cable inside the drag chain. I'm not a huge fan of how I'm handling the traveling YY motors. I know the right way to do it is to use drag chains on both sides, but it seems a little unnecessary at this point.

                      I'm excited to work on input shaping and pressure advance with this system. I think pressure advance will especially help out the super volcano nozzle. Getting the seems to form properly with a 1mm nozzle is really tough with just making it extrude extra material.

                      My next dream is a scara arm that travels up a rail mounted to the wall with a 2' working area to build really tall parts. I think I want to get this machine nailed down before moving on to the next one though!

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                      • jackantubisundefined
                        jackantubis @michaelr123
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                        @michaelr123 Nice BIG setup. For cooling you can use "CPAP" fan derivate from air assist system, work really well to blow lot of air, the blower is on the frame with a "CPAP" tubing to send the air on the carriage, light and powerfull. Look the forum for my JUBILEE system with this cooling.

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User @vwegert
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                          • Boynextdoorundefined
                            Boynextdoor @michaelr123
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                            @michaelr123 Great setup! How much money and time did you spend on this project? Do you run a blog? It would be interesting to look at the process from scratch. I'm not interested in ready-to-go solutions. Of course, it would be easier to choose it(list of) but who cares
                            All the best!

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                            • michaelr123undefined
                              michaelr123 @Boynextdoor
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                              @boynextdoor

                              Hey there!

                              I appreciate the kind words! I don't run a blog or anything, but I've thought about documenting more of it as now I finally feel like its worthy of it! 😄

                              shoot me any questions you have on the build!

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