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    • burtonenatorundefined
      burtonenator @OwenD
      last edited by burtonenator

      @owend
      So I gave this a try, but it now triggers the pause, and then immediately the resume.

      I don't see your "Button wasn't pressed long enough" error, even if I push very quickly, and it always does the pause resume, even when I did a longer dwell.

      G4 S5				 ; put a delay in as your first line,  The button must be held longer than this.
      if sensors.gpIn[9].value != 1 ; the button isn't still pressed so we'll abort the macro
      	echo "Button wasn't pressed long enough" ; remove this line when done testing
      	M99 ; cancel macro
      
      if job.file.fileName !=null ; if there's a job filename then it's reasonably safe to say we are printing
      	if global.PausePress == false ; the button hasn't been pressed so we'll pause
      		echo "Pause"
      		M25
      	else
      		echo "resume"	
      		M24
      	
      	set global.PausePress = !global.PausePress ; toggle the value from whatever it was before use "not"
      

      important parts of config.g:

      ;Pause Button
      M950 J9 C"io8.in" 
      M581 P9 T2 S1
      global PausePress = false
      

      and the console:

      5/7/2022, 6:01:39 PM	Printing resumed
      5/7/2022, 6:01:35 PM	resume
      5/7/2022, 6:01:29 PM	Printing paused at X207.1 Y192.9 Z6.6
      5/7/2022, 6:01:24 PM	Resume state saved
      5/7/2022, 6:01:24 PM	Pause
      
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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @burtonenator
        last edited by

        @burtonenator

        Take the safe and reliable route - use two buttons.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • OwenDundefined
          OwenD
          last edited by

          I suspect it's being invoked twice. So the de-bouncing logic isn't working.
          Maybe reverse it and use a small delay
          Try

          echo "called at " ^ state.time
          G4 P10 ; delay 10ms to debounce
          if sensors.gpIn[9].value=0
          	M99 ; break out if sensor value is zero again (bouncing)
          

          as your first line.
          I expect a different time for the pause and resume lines.

          Do you see the value of the input change in the input model?

          It would be much easier to use two buttons.

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          • burtonenatorundefined
            burtonenator @OwenD
            last edited by

            @owend
            This seems to work, although I don't understand why it does and what I had before doesn't:

            ;echo "called at " ^ state.time
            G4 P1 ; delay 1ms to debounce
            if sensors.gpIn[9].value=1
            	;echo "debounce"
            	M99 ; break out if sensor value is zero again (bouncing)
            
            if job.file.fileName !=null ; if there's a job filename then it's reasonably safe to say we are printing
            	if global.PausePress == false ; the button hasn't been pressed so we'll pause
            		;echo "Pause"
            		M25
            	else
            		;echo "resume"	
            		M24
            	
            	set global.PausePress = !global.PausePress ; toggle the value from whatever it was before use "not"
            

            Even with the delay debounce 1ms it now works as expected, So Thank you!

            As for the 2 buttons debate, these buttons are way to cool, and lend themselves to the "One button Pause/Resume" idea:

            Lit Indicator Buttons

            I light and dim the LED in the pause and resume macros so the button is a correct indicator. You can even put a label behind the plastic to mark what its for. The LED is a bit dim on the 3.3v from the output, but I think I can deal with that now that I have this working

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            • OwenDundefined
              OwenD @burtonenator
              last edited by

              @burtonenator
              The reason it didn't work before is that when the button bounced it called the macro twice in succession.
              The long delay was masking this.

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              • Nightowlundefined
                Nightowl @burtonenator
                last edited by

                This is a really interesting thread, @burtonenator, thank you. I'm looking for a way to pause and resume the machine (in my case a CNC machine) with a normally open switch, which you seem to have done here. First press to pause, subsequent press to resume. This was referred to as a "feed hold" switch on my Shapeoko, but it wasn't completely workable with an external switch, so I'm hoping this solution is what I'm looking for on Duet3 MB6HC-controlled machine.

                Although a flagrant abuse of the code you've shown here (sorry!) is it necessary to have Pause and Resume macros, as I can't see how they are 'called' from this code - or is that what the global.PausePress line refers to?

                I'm also assuming the : Pause button lines in the config.g file are necessary, too?

                As you can guess, I'm completely new to this, particularly programming the Duet!

                I also noted @fcwilt's comment about using two buttons, which the direction I'd probably go in if I can't wrangle your code to fit with my machine.

                Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                • burtonenatorundefined
                  burtonenator @Nightowl
                  last edited by

                  So far this has worked well for me, the only issue is I do have to push the button until the command is recognized, so if the printer is doing a long line, it won't catch unless I have the button down at the end of the line before the next command goes in. This is probably expected and its not that big an issue in practice.

                  @nightowl999

                  This is all the magic from the config.g side, its the "T2" that sets it to run the second trigger file (trigger2.g) when the button is pushed.

                  ;Pause Button
                  M950 J9 C"io8.in" 
                  M581 P9 T2 S1
                  ;if !exists global.PausePress ; if it's not created we do so now
                  global PausePress = false
                  

                  trigger2.g, its the M24 and M25 that actually call the pause and resume files :

                  ;echo "called at " ^ state.time
                  G4 P1 ; delay 10ms to debounce
                  if sensors.gpIn[9].value=1
                  	;echo "debounce"
                  	M99 ; break out if sensor value is zero again (bouncing)
                  
                  if job.file.fileName !=null ; if there's a job filename then it's reasonably safe to say we are printing
                  	if global.PausePress == false ; the button hasn't been pressed so we'll pause
                  		;echo "Pause"
                  		M25
                  	else
                  		;echo "resume"	
                  		M24
                  	
                  	
                  

                  turning the light on and off was the easy part, just turn the pin for that on or off:

                  M42 P8 S0 ;LED off
                  set global.PausePress = !global.PausePress ; toggle the value from whatever it was before use "not"
                  

                  and its magic in config.g:

                  ;output for pause LED
                  M950 P8 C"io8.out"
                  M42 P8 S0 ; off by default 
                  
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                  • Nightowlundefined
                    Nightowl @burtonenator
                    last edited by Nightowl

                    That's awesome, thank you @burtonenator!

                    I see you're using "io8" for this (I'll have to change that to io1 as I'm already using io2, 3, 6 and 8!) but I think that should be fairly straightforward.

                    I also understand the "; Pause Button" and "; output for pause LED" lines of code are in the config.g file and the code for the M24 and M25 commands are in the trigger.g file, but what I'm not clear on is where the two M42... lines go. Are these in the config.g file too?

                    I think I've pretty much got the pin outs clear in my head too, but the LEDs in my switch (I think) are 12v, so I may need to get the +ve feed for that elsewhere, probably OUT7, 8 or 9.

                    Anyway, I'm off to experiment!

                    Thanks again!

                    Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                    I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                    RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                    • burtonenatorundefined
                      burtonenator @Nightowl
                      last edited by

                      @nightowl999

                      I have the initial M42 in the config.g because it does actually start with that on, so this sets it off, and then after that its in the pause and resume to set it correctly when pressed.

                      Yea, the out on the io's is 3.3v, I needed a transistor to bring it up to 5v for my LED, which in that one I showed above lists as 12v but looks great at 5v

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                      • oliofundefined
                        oliof @burtonenator
                        last edited by oliof

                        @burtonenator if you used M950 P8 C"!io8.out"you could skip the M42 IIRC.

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                        • Nightowlundefined
                          Nightowl @burtonenator
                          last edited by

                          @burtonenator said in External Pause/Resume Button:

                          the only issue is I do have to push the button until the command is recognized, so if the printer is doing a long line, it won't catch

                          Following on from this comment, what in 3D printing terms is "...a long line"? I appreciate this is the code within the gcode file, obviously 🙂 , but i'm not familiar with how travel speed/time on a 3D printer compares to that of a CNC machine.

                          Is it a case of CNCers savagely cut their way through stock while 3D printers gently weave their way?

                          Thanks

                          Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                          I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                          RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Nightowl
                            last edited by

                            @nightowl999 said in External Pause/Resume Button:

                            .a long line

                            It means that each command would execute and complete before an interruption/pause could take effect before the next command is executed.

                            You can reduce this effect by increasing the segmentation value. This breaks long running commands up into smaller sections which allows the interruption to happen sooner.

                            See the details on the M669 command for how to configure segmentation.

                            https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m669-set-kinematics-type-and-kinematics-parameters

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                            • Nightowlundefined
                              Nightowl @Phaedrux
                              last edited by Nightowl

                              Sorry, I was being slightly flippant, @phaedrux, although it would be interesting to know how these things compare.

                              I can cut a a 12" slot in a piece of hardwood with a 1/4" end mill quite qhickly, but I guess it would take a lot longer for a 3D printer to build a 1/4" square bar 12" long quite a bit longer, but I suppose it's trying to compare apples and pears...

                              Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                              RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                It's not about the time or speed it takes, it's about the gcode command itself which would be the same in CNC or 3d printer. The point being that in order to interrupt a command in progress it must be segmented to stop it mid execution.

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                                • Nightowlundefined
                                  Nightowl @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by Nightowl

                                  @phaedrux I'm being a plum. I was getting confused with another thread! Sorry.

                                  No, this question was really about the delay when activating the pause command for the external switch.

                                  Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                  I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                  RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @Nightowl
                                    last edited by

                                    @nightowl999 said in External Pause/Resume Button:

                                    it's trying to compare apples and pears...

                                    I like pears but my wife doesn't.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Nightowlundefined
                                      Nightowl @fcwilt
                                      last edited by

                                      @fcwilt 🙄 🙂 🙂

                                      Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                      I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                      RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                      • Nightowlundefined
                                        Nightowl @burtonenator
                                        last edited by Nightowl

                                        @burtonenator
                                        Just a quick update: I now have full pause/resume control via an external switch. Yaay!

                                        Thank you for your wisdom and help.

                                        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                        RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                        • Nightowlundefined
                                          Nightowl @burtonenator
                                          last edited by Nightowl

                                          @burtonenator

                                          I found a little anomaly with the code. It is just a little one, but if you run the file from the Jobs screen, everything works as it should (thanks again), but if you rerun the file from the Start Again button in the Job Control window of the Dashboard, the file will run, but if you use the external button to Pause the process, you get an error:

                                          Error: Cannot print, because no file is selected!
                                          

                                          So I'm guessing the "job.file.fileName" line might need a bit of a tweak.

                                          I'll see how I get on...

                                          EDIT: Erm, it doesn't seem to do it now. I'll check again over the next few days and report back...

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                                          I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                          RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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